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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Let's hope they step on each other's dicks so much for the next four years that they are completely stalled from implementing any of their agenda.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Plus keep in mind that many of their margins are far smaller than they were in 2016. Then, they had 241 house seats. Next year they'll have 220 seats (just a 3 seat majorty)

You only need a handful of defections to defeat bills so it's a reminder to keep fighting them

Plus at the sate level were also much stronger with control of 31 state governors. They had 25 state government trifectas compared to just 6 for dems (rest divided)

Next year they will have 27 state govenors and a trifecta in 23 state governments compared to 15 dem trifectas (rest divided)

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I gotta love your optimism. They have the Senate, the House of Representatives, the white house, the Supreme Court and the support of a host of oligarchs... but BARELY.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The infighting does limit some of their abilities. A handful of people that want to stir the pot or take the spotlight can grind things to a halt if they want to. Just ask Kevin McCarthy and how many speaker votes it took to get him in and how many speaker votes it took to get his replacement. Keep in mind they'll have fewer house seat than they did then

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes I witnessed this with Republicans frequently. But the Democrats seem completely inept at it. Or you know, maybe they are all cut from the same cloth and just pretending.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not sure I follow what you are saying? Are you saying Democrats are indept at infighting? As in they should infight more?

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No I'm saying it is my impression that when Democrats have a majority or a lot of support, they don't seem to get anything done because the Republicans seem to be experts at blocking legislation. Obama care would be the notable exception (but it sucks IMO). But when the Republicans are in the majority they seem to pass all kinds of horrible measures and the Democrats seem helpless to stop/stall them in kind. Maybe I'm wrong but that's the way it feels.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Keep in mind that we also just talk a lot more anout republican's legislation waaaay more than we do for Democrats. There's way more than Obamacare that's gotten through but we just barely talk about it because it mostly lives in the background and Republicans have dominated the messaging

For instance, the Inflation Reduction Act was one of the single largest climate investments in US history with real predicted effects on our overall future emissions. It isn't enough, sure, but the media barely talked about a $783 billion investment in climate change. It's projected to move the 2030 US emissions to 40% below 2005 emissions levels

There's plenty that dems stopped Trump from doing during his first term. Saving the ACA is the classic example, but things like the Muslim travel ban were blocked in lawsuits, they won out when in shutdown fights about wasting fund on a wall, etc

[–] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago

Gotta question the optimism.

The Democrats, or any party for the matter, can be as ready to vote on something as they want.

The majority leader decides what makes it to the floor for a vote.

Can't vote for bills that aren't in front of you.

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The decision to step down confused some Republicans, but others suspected the move had something to do with the House GOP Steering Committee not giving her a coveted post on the House Ways and Means Committee, according to two people with direct knowledge of the matter.

Spartz, who has had problems with retaining staff, said she’d prefer to “spend more of my time helping” the mission of the so-called Department of Government Efficiency, which is meant to help cut government spending.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

A fit of pique.

I dont believe her when she says she doesn't need to be involved in circuses. She ran as a republican after all.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also keep in mind their house majority is super tight so this kind of thing matters even more than usual. They lost a house seat this last election and will only have a 3 seat majority. If they follow their currently stated plans, they'll also only have a single seat majority for at least couple of months based on who they're planning on pulling from the house into the admin. (House vacancies are not filled by governor, unlike the senate. They are just left vacant until a special election)

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

wouldn't it be a hoot if nobody was checking current counts of house membership while donvict chooses his comrades in crime...... and too many give up their seats

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Even barring that, they could also have issues with unexpected/unplanned vacancies and missed votes. Health problems, delayed flights, lazy house member, etc. can all pose a giant pain for them

Know there's already been concerns raised in the senate about the new WV senate Jim Justice's attendance problems (they'll have 53 in the senate)

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago