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How Worried Should We Be About Bird Flu? California has declared a state of emergency over the virus. We asked experts how concerned they are. (www.nytimes.com)

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TL;DR: don't drink raw milk. Get an ordinary flu shot if you haven't already.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is a nothing burger. Humans aren't good at calculating risk, especially risk in our huge, modern world. And many have a sort of COVID PTSD. And the media is hyping on that.

tl;dr; Walking out your front door is far riskier.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

That’s a bold statement. Were you a hardline “I don’t wanna” type during COVID who plans to do the same if this becomes something, or are you medically inclined and have some inside knowledge to back that statement up?

There is the recent Lancet article but that is regarding an eventual, probable mutation should it take root in mammals and start spreading mammal to mammal. COVID mutated too, but it took 2-3yrs for a mutation to occur such that it stopped ravaging people.

H5N1 isn’t like COVID, H5N1 has been on the world radar, watched, since ~2002.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 3 days ago

I mean it could become something. The thing about covid is china was not forthcoming. We are actively tracking this and so will take actions as the data shows (maybe given incoming administration)

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Covid 2: Electric Boogaloo

[+] OpenStars@piefed.social -6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wonder why an "emergency"? The person who got sick was in Louisiana, and pasteurized milk, unlike raw, is entirely safe to drink. So if nobody in CA is sick, then...? The article did not seem to answer why.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Because dipshits gonna dipshit.

Crunchy types who think ultra bacterial/viral milk is health beneficial and that bacteria free (pasteurized, as in, flashed with some heat) is terrible for their health, will go out of their way to continue consuming it. Remember, “I don’t wanna” is a predictor of human behavior.

We also have the premier dipshit, RFK, heading health, and a CDC that doesn’t do pandemic work (see: Reveal podcast’s 3 part series on the COVID project), so it could be that California is treating this as one of many things states have to do themselves, by themselves, going forward. My read of the post election news is all 3 west coast states plan to do for themselves, as independently as possible, since Trump won. This action fits that narrative and theif GDPs, CA especially, do make that plausible. As such, OR and even WA may follow suit if more cases appear.

Newsom is also gunning to run in 2028, assume we have democratic elections instead of Putin style elections going forward.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

I was wondering if it was only going to affect people who drink raw milk, but other articles are reminding me that it still affects the farm workers themselves (which I thought protective gear was shown ro be sufficient there, but I don't recall how certain that is).

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sale of raw milk is legal in California, and the cows are widely infected. Bird flu is showing up in sewage in most of the state, which suggests that there are likely to be a whole bunch more infected people who don't realize what they have.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Thank you for answering. My comment probably sounded like conspiratorial nonsense, but you answered as if it were - and it was - authentic, so thanks.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who told you that nobody in California is sick?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The article specifically said that?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No it didn't

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I misunderstood - hence why I asked - but passages such as these led me to question what then it was trying to say:

“If you’re not working directly with animals right now, it would not be the top thing that I’d be worried about... It’s unlikely right now that’s going to be a problem for most people.”

"... right now, there’s no reason to panic or really do anything beyond avoid raw milk products.”

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

In other words, it’s not time to rush the stores and buy out the toilet paper just yet.