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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 106 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks around at the trump world… yep

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Yup. About half of them voted this last election.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

There's a lesson to be learned here:

Remove lead? Industry fights it. Lead gets removed. Industry is fine.

Acid rain? Industry fights it. Sulfur dioxide emissions reduced. Industry is fine.

Hole in ozone layer? Industry fights it. PFCs removed. Industry just fine.

Global warming? Industry fights it...

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But the industry WASN'T fine. They lost a fraction of a fraction of a percent in profits by going for the cleaner, safer options. How can you be so heartless.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Clearly nobody has thought about the corpo parasite mate...

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 32 points 2 weeks ago

This is why boomers hate their children.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

And they vote.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Don’t aircraft still use leaded fuel to this day?

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only some small piston based aircraft engines. Commercial aviation doesn't use lead. It's not great, but it's not a particularly significant amount.

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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So uh, there was some studying being done at my local university about mapping health issues for residents living closer to airports and.... It ain't too great. :(

[–] kcuf@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's probably related to all the other chemicals they use at airports (eg forever chemicals in fire retardant). 100LL (100 octane low lead) is only used in small piston engines, which is a very small population. They're trying alternatives that don't use lead, but I'm reading that the top contender is eating through paint and possibly gaskets and seals in the plane, which isn't safe either.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. My boomer father drives to airports to get leaded gas for his lawn equipment and generators. He thinks I'm over reacting when I refuse to be near any of that shit when it's running.

[–] lote@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder what we'll find out the lunchables have done to us.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 11 points 2 weeks ago

do you have eyes?

[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

151 million? That number seems low to me....

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

I think that's about the amount of people who were are currently alive, that had been born by the time leaded gas was banned, maybe a little bit less.

[–] MrMeanJavaBean@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess this explains Boomers

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Gen X voted for Trump in greater numbers. We need to admit that half of Americans just fucking suck in general.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Gen X was still knee deep in lead emissions.

Also, both groups have had a stranglehold on mainstream media, normalizing their sociopathy for the next generations.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

For the record, less than a third of eligible voters voted for Trump.

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

like how is that news? we see them all the time.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Over 75 years, Hauer said lead exposure doubled the risk of schizophrenia for 89 million Americans, while quadrupling the risk of attention deficit disorder (ADHD) among another 170 million U.S. adults. The research also found a spike in anxiety, depression and neuroticism and a decrease in conscientiousness over the same period.

​The authors note that lead exposures would have also occurred from lead pipes, contaminated food and soil, and airborne dust from lead-emitting industries and waste incineration, among other sources. However, all of the mental health disorders tracked in the study rose and fell with the prevalence of lead in gasoline.

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/highlights/leaded-gasoline-legacy-linked-to-surge-in-schizophrenia-adhd-and-anxiety-disorders-finds-study-9902282

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not sure if this is offtopic but...

My parents grew up in China but still emotionally abusive af, did China also have leaded gasoline, or did the wind just blew all the toxicity of lead from the US all the way across the world? (None of us even stepped foot in the US until like around 2010s, I think leaded gas was already banned by then...) 🤔

Or maybe my parents are just naturally born toxic... 😓

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

China didn't ban it until 2000.

It's still legal in like Afghanistan and North Korea.

Japan was the first to ban it in 1986.

Edit: to answer your question more accurately, any country with vehicles that had engines prone to knocking had it. So yes, it was very much in the atmosphere of China.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

I had trouble understanding the standard deviations in the study so had chatgpt translate them into terms I could understand.

FYI:

  1. General Psychopathology Factor (g-factor):

    • The "602-million General Psychopathology factor points" refers to the cumulative impact of leaded gasoline exposure across the U.S. population on a mental health risk measure.
    • A 0.13 standard deviation increase means that, on average, the population's liability to mental illness shifted slightly higher. While it's hard to translate standard deviations into percentages directly, a 0.13 SD is considered a small effect, equivalent to about a 5.2% increase in risk when interpreted broadly.
  2. 151 Million Excess Mental Disorders:

    • This means that, due to lead exposure, there were 151 million additional cases of mental disorders in the U.S. population over time. This doesn't mean 151 million people, as some individuals might have more than one disorder.
  3. Internalizing Symptoms:

    • Internalizing symptoms (like anxiety and depression) showed a 0.64 standard deviation increase. This is a medium-to-large effect size and can be roughly understood as a 24% increase in these symptoms across the population.
  4. AD/HD Symptoms:

    • Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder symptoms increased by 0.42 standard deviations, which is a moderate effect size. This corresponds to about a 16.5% increase in population-level AD/HD symptoms.
  5. Personality Traits (Neuroticism and Conscientiousness):

    • Neuroticism (tendency to experience negative emotions) increased by 0.14 standard deviations (a small effect, about a 5.6% increase).
    • Conscientiousness (self-discipline and organization) decreased by 0.20 standard deviations, which is a slightly larger small effect, about an 8% decrease.
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