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Ask them how the Uyghurs in China are doing.
Very prosperous region with a lot of job creation.
Their answer from my last interaction:
-western propaganda
-uyghurs themselves love it
-not forced labour but a vocational school the government put these people under
-amnesty and UN is lying and unreliable
-only reliable source is the blogpost they linked
-it's all anti terrorism effort
-western propaganda
Don't tell me facts
Grains of truth in each point.
Which is a give away sign of anti-western propaganda. China, russia and the likes.
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Their answer is always “something-something western propaganda have you ever seen the camps first-hand you’re swallowing propaganda they’re not real CCP is going to solve global warming with fusion energy”
I got banned from some community or other for laughing at that last part. Not a joke, apparently.
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From the title of that post, I'm getting hella "the right can't meme" vibes (but it's also just fucked up grammatically so maybe that's throwing me off). But at the same time I'm getting tankie vibes from the "what you hope for" side of the meme...
During that era everyone was homophobic. Though the self proclaimed allies of today are a larger threat to our existence than those that openly hate us.
I feel dumb. What’s below Israel’s flag?
One of multiple flags representing terrorism
Tankie, definitely.
Same as on reddit.
I lived happily oblivious of the existence of tankies until I randomly said I was voting for a democratic politician in r/latestagecapitalism.
Yeah, the fact that they're all so anti-voting and/or "both sides"-y is why I think the root of most of the tankies' thinking is Chinese propaganda. Like, just because you vote for someone doesn't mean you are 100% aligned with everything they say. Or even 50% of it. Just means you're more aligned with them than the other option. The only people who could possibly benefit from such a stupid mode of thought are part of authoritarian governments.
Yep. I nearly disagree as much with a democrat as a republican.
But pragmatically, I prefer that trans people and disabled people aren’t literally eradicated, and whether 1% or 50% of the population turn out, the election still stands so I’ll be voting.
That doesn’t mean I don’t do other things in a more revolutionary spirit, but I think it’s dumb not to vote.
But pragmatically, I prefer that trans people and disabled people aren’t literally eradicated
OH, so you think that trans and disabled folk should be SPECIAL and EXCLUDED from genocide while other people are being genocided elsewhere??? Typical shitlib
/s
I wouldn't even say it's propaganda. It's bad-faith. They find whatever reasons they can to not participate in the hopes that the system will get worse, and this will swing a magic political pendulum to the opposite side of socialist utopia.
More like swing to "communist" authoritarian government. We can only hope that anyone who doesn't like the new state can be reducated in reducation camps. If not they will have to be killed.
The missing part is that magic political pendulum = "People suffer more and more until it boils over in a violent revolution with much death on all sides and The Party™ installs themselves as leaders of everything, which then will 'dissolve itself' 'one day' 'when they're no longer necessary.'"
Which might be even less likely to happen than if it was magic, tbf.
I would honestly be less upset if revolutions at least actually happened like that.
But they don't.
People can suffer nearly infinitely (see: North Korea). It is when people are poised to strike that revolution happens. The French Revolution did not happen any of the innumerable times France had experienced hunger and hardship before; it happened when the bougie reps of the Third Estate were put in a position of power by the circumstances presented. The February Russian Revolution did not happen at the height of serfdom or mass starvation; it happened when the forces of repression were weakened by outside distractions. The Iranian Revolution, the Carnation Revolution, the Irish War of Independence... all originating in states which had experienced far greater suffering in the past under those selfsame regimes.
Revolutions happen when people think they can win, not when suffering hits a certain threshold. And very often, people think they can win precisely because of hard-fought reforms putting them in a better position to strike.
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Tankies love them some genocide daddies, they never fail to simp for daddy Stalin
Yep. I blocked it. Had my post deleted when rather politely calling out a dumbass trying to assert someone who dared to criticize the religion of leninism. By claiming that they hadn't read enough theory. I simply stated that both Leninism and capitalism are both failed theories.
Bam deletion. Rule 3 attacking socialism. I asked them how I was attacking socialism. Pointing out that I'm left libertarian / anarchist. Very pro socialism. Which they then laughably changed to communist misinformation. Which I then pointed out that that wasn't Rule 3. And it wasn't misinformation.
I only petitioned the deletion though because I knew they could not be neutral or mature. And they did not fail to meet expectations. It's a total Echo chamber.
When you ask the People's Front of Judea who they hate worse, the Romans or the Judean People's Front.
SPLITTERS!