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The post-festive return to work in the dark days of January is never easy, but this new year is shaping up to be tougher than usual for UK workers. Not only must they brave days of severe cold and ice, but many face the end of post-pandemic hybrid working.

A range of big employers are hauling their teams back to the office, with Amazon issuing the strictest mandate, demanding staff attend in person five days a week.

Such orders are provoking fresh battles between employees and their bosses, who believe staff need to be brought together to foster collaboration, creativity and a sense of belonging.

While the luxury of being able to work remotely is not possible for all jobs, it has increasingly become viewed as a right in the almost five years since Covid lockdowns forced staff to carry out their roles from their dining tables, spare bedrooms or sheds at the bottom of the garden, with many arguing they are just as productive at home.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

foster collaboration, creativity and a sense of belonging.

That means gossip, procrastination, stealing ideas from underlings without paper trail, office politics and micromanaging, and everybody sitting at their desk with noise cancelling headphones.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When we have work at office days on days with tons of meetings I get so dead inside. Like I didn’t have to get up and prep and come here just to put on headphones in a cubicle all day did I? Christ. At least at home I’m relaxed and listening

[–] tzrlk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Cubicles?! Luxury! All we get is open-plan hot-desking.

Corporate: “We need better CoLlAbOrAtIoN.”

Also Corporate: Crams a bunch of people who don’t work together in an office where they spend all their days on Zoom meetings

[–] walter_wiggles 35 points 2 weeks ago

Tell me you're laying people off without laying people off.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

Commuting isn't cheap - it costs most of us over £100 a week. Offices are rarely, if ever, catered, so be prepared to spend for lunch (or spend your free time prepping lunch,or paying extra for portable food).

Know what no-one factors in, the price of lost sleep for that commute, over the years you're paying a real premium in medical care as conditions develop.

Bring back genuine office perks (catering, refreshments, a culture of clocking out when done, banning open plan offices, on/near-site child care, flexibility for school runs, near-site medical/dental visits, exercise facilities open before and after hours) and offset the financial stresses by paying a reasonable wage, and you might see folks being less adverse towards RTO.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So Amazon does it. That doesn’t mean it’s a trend of everyone going back to fucking work. Stop making it seem as if WFH is going away. People will fight tooth and nail for it now. If you pull it away then your best workers will go elsewhere.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Right, Amazon can do it because their best workers already left or never existed. Gigantic churn rate, terrible reputation.

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Their best workers never existed - scheiße.

You would think being THE place that’s known almost exclusively as a career stepping stone in tech would set off some alarm bells in the c-suite. Then again, narcissists and sociopaths aren’t exactly introspective. It’s probably just easier to keep pretending that everyone else is the problem.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Corporate real estate - a trillion dollar moneybag favored by "foreign" investors is becoming worthless. *Everybody panic*

Meanwhile, decent jobs with fair bosses: Yeah remote is fine.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

This stuff sorta cracks me up. The titles always sound like this is the way we are going but every company that does not need workers in office who are not encumbered with real estate are embracing the fuck out of wfh and even some with it are doing it to remain competitive with talent. There will be more and more going that way as they can get out of or finish contracts or sell off real estate as that is what makes economic sense. Smart ones to me will look to have more smaller office spread out near good transit setup for customer presentation. kitchenette combined with a large meeting room and several break out meeting rooms with good wireless and AV equipment. then local employees can go in and use them when they have need so they don't have to work out of a loud coffee shop.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's a mixed bag causing two divides.

The first affecting the business with the savings to be had on reduced office space requirements weighed up against perceived lower productivity.

The second, workers enjoying reduced travel costs and convenience but offset the home stops being a home and loneliness.