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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

You forgot ncis

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"But they're just TV shows" "it's not that deep" etc. I would implore you to listen to this excellent episode of Citations Needed..

It covers how modern cop shows were invented directly to counter shows that portrayed defence lawyers as the protagonists, along with a general push to lionize the police state despite its inability to prevent crime or deliver real justice.

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[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Crazy how much of this stuff is subsidized by or directly financed by the national security state. The most infamous, in my memory anyway, was the Transformers Franchise which got enormous access to US military staff and equipment during the shooting. The end result was a movie that felt more like one of those hookey 80s "Join the Marines" ads than a piece of action cinema.

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[–] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 137 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

Captain America is a weird one to include. Not denying it's propaganda, everything is, but throwing Cap in with copaganda is such a surface level take. He's propaganda for American exceptionalism sure, but also embodies it in an old school New Deal way. The character has been consistently anti-facist over the years.

Imo Iron Man is the much more harmful propaganda. You can pretty much draw a direct line between the characters rise in popularity thanks to the MCU and the rise of Elon Musk.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Any superhero movie is problematic. They all say that only a few special people can save the country and the world. The rest of the population just has to hold tight and let the important people do their thing. It's just a small step by replacing powers with wealth to give the rich carte blanche to do as they please.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not those scenes in Spider-Man where New York throws random objects at the villain until they relent. Hell yeah solidarity.

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Not to mention that a lot of those special people are born better

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 63 points 3 days ago

People kept calling Musk -- Stark because they thought he was a scientist/genius. Like the MCU fake tech was gonna be birthed out of this immature edge lord that steals people's idea with stolen money.

Yeah I kinda disagree with Cap as well. He also explicitly refutes the government to stand up what he believes is right in Civil War too.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Elon was literally in 2 at the Grand Prix

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I like the myth of the police, not actual cops, I like Simon Pegg in Hot Fuzz, actual cops can suck a nard

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago
[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago (5 children)

You can enjoy TV shows and movies while knowing ACAB is the truth.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

For me now I think of it like a marvel movie.

This cop not shooting anyone is just like a man with superpowers swinging through the city on sci fi ropes.

It's nice to imagine.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Really depends. Cops shows are really off putting to me. Marvel is kinda OK; not a fan, but it's so over the top that I can abstract from the propaganda.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 108 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would critique capital end up reinforcing it instead.

Disco Elysium

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

NGL CSI was my shit growing up. Though I was never deluded into believing that accurately reflected reality to any extent. ACAB

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

should have replaced CSI NY with Blue Bloods, same message, same city.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Back the blue and buy a reverse mortgage

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But Captain America is a good movie. I mean, he kills Nazis.

[–] _____@lemm.ee 35 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Where does stuff like Brooklyn 99 come in?

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

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[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I tend to lump it in with The West Wing as idealistic wish fulfilment of how we'd like things to be, or a picture of our human potential.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 days ago

Fetish content

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Moonie (Moon Channel) has a lovely 2h30 video on the topic of Kawaii: Anime, Propaganda, and Soft Power Politics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM2VIKfaY0Y

It focuses mostly on the eastern part of things, but it applies to stuff we end up consuming, too. Also worth quoting one of the top comments in the video:

I think you get one thing wrong, and that is claiming Japan is the #1 at projecting soft power. I'm sorry but the US is #1 and it isn't even a contest (coming from a non-American). The reason we don't really get the impression that the US is this soft power behemoth is because the US has been so proficient in projecting soft power that it has been normalized and integrated everywhere.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Bro thinks Startship Troopers is actual army propaganda.

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