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I’m a Noble on the Brink of Ruin, So I Might as Well Try Mastering Magic • Botsuraku Yotei no Kizoku dakedo, Hima Datta kara Mahou wo Kiwamete mita - Episode 1 discussion (s4.anilist.co)
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Botsuraku Yotei no Kizoku dakedo, Hima Datta kara Mahou wo Kiwamete mita, episode 1

Alternative NamesBotsurakuKizoku, 没落貴族

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[–] NineSwords@ani.social 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The show does something that's a pet peeve of mine. The way the info dump by explaining everything to the character that the characters should be perfectly aware of. For example telling MC how old he is or who his family members are and who owns the land their house is on. Those types of dialogues are so unrealistic that it really pisses me off. Just imagine that in real life:

"Hello, Mary my wife. How is the apartment doing that belongs to Victor who is our landlord?"

"Oh it's doing great Gary who just got 35 years old last month. Since you are the second son and have 3 more siblings who all live in the same complex we get a nice little rent reduction. And once Ethan who is our son moves out we have more time to build our house in Capetoon which is the small city the next town over".

"I love you wife"

"I love you too husband"

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but this is issue is also why isekai is so damn rampant. As an author it's a bit of a cheat to have your MC not know anything so obviously they get things told to them instead of doing more subtle world building.

My favorite example of world building is the John Wick movie. First one. Nothing is outright explained. It's shown and you understand. Those gold coins especially.

[–] NineSwords@ani.social 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah but this is issue is also why isekai is so damn rampant. As an author it’s a bit of a cheat to have your MC not know anything so obviously they get things told to them instead of doing more subtle world building.

I don't think this is an isekai problem. While yes, it's a narrative crutch that makes exposition easier, it's not used in the way you mentioned. As shown here in this anime it can even be a detractor. I've read hundreds of isekai novels that don't fall into the same narrative traps as seen here. I think in this case it's just a bad author (or screenwriter) and the exposition would be just as bad without the isekai aspect. The audience needs exposition regardless of the setting.

Where the isekai setting helps as a narrative crutch is explaining things to the reader/viewer in modern earth terms. I.e. "that dragon was as big as a school bus".

Your John Wick example is a great example of "show;don't tell" exposition where the writer/director had faith in the intelligence of the audience. We get it even without spelling it out. And if we don't we'll look it up online or discuss it with our peers until we get it. I really wish this type of exposition were the general rule, but I feel like it's being used less and less. It's this "no viewers left behind" mentality where studios are afraid to confuse even a fraction of the audience.

[–] glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

This was just so painfully boring and I felt like very little happened. Like others have said, he didn't seem to ever really fail at anything, so it's hard to believe they're going to be able to create any tension in any scene going forward. The one thing I did enjoy though was that Liam (and seemingly the anime itself) instantly trusted the comically suspicious man in the woods. I'd really like for him to actually be up to something sinister, but it really doesn't seem like he was set up that way.

It seems watchable for people who consume industrial amounts of isekai each season, but it really should have made there be any stakes or any interesting characters. I give the first episode of 2/5 and did not bother watching the second.

[–] esc27@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the Maryest of Mary Sues, where everything he tries either succeeds (with some effort) or fails in a way that actually works out better. I don’t think I’ve ever come across a character with more luck and good fortune.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 1 points 3 days ago

There really isn't any real 'failure' that I've seen demonstrated widely within media now that I think about it

How about a little of "Have your primary weapon destroyed, try to make allies but your ally is also debilitated by your enemy and because of that you almost die and nearly kill your other ally with it and your best ally is apparently your worst enemy so yeah you're fucked"?

[–] Max@ani.social 1 points 4 days ago

This anime seemed to me like that one where the guy is reincarnated into a family as the 8th son and kills a dragon