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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 42 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I REALLY wish they'd implement that in my home city of Montréal, Québec. We're facing huge traffic congestion because of construction. It's so bad it's actually costing lives due to driver impatience.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Downtown Toronto too, please. This last year was the first time I have seen multiple emergency vehicles not being able to get to their destinations because of traffic gridlock. It's insane.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

Less cars is the answer! And in what transit is concerned I would say that convenience is very important. Like in Netherlands they got bike locking stations. Not simply a tube that you lock your bike into which is screwed to the front door of a building and fits 3 bikes. I'm talking massive building with an automated system that keeps your bike secure for when you get out of work after the train ride. And restrooms... With cleaning.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Are we sure that it's causing people to take alternative transit more vs just... Not going to Manhattan though? I'm all for it, just worth studying more.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

It's been widely studied in other cities already. Studying it more is ok, but at some point you gotta wonder whether we need all that many studies about whether water is wet, or if the resources and manpower could be better spent elsewhere.

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[–] trufiassociation@lemmy.ml 33 points 4 days ago

We've been seeing a lot of anecdotal posting on Xitter of people who were skeptics or in opposition to this suddenly realizing that they just gained an hour or more per day because the traffic has been significantly reduced. So even some regular people (i.e. not the wealthy) who have to drive in NYC because of their job are realizing that there's a cost benefit even if they do pay for the congestion pricing.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (42 children)

Nice. Now cars are only for the rich like they should be.

Real solution: Ban cars in parts of NYC.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Now cars are only for the rich

More that roads are for high occupancy or professional vehicles - buses, ambulances, construction vehicles, commercial trucks - that still need access to Manhattan but can't be placed on a train.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Can anybody tell me how much a drive through the congestion priced road would cost? Like a straight line?

[–] Periodicchair@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (8 children)

$9 for cars, no matter if you go one block in or all the way through. And no daily charge for staying there multiple days, only charged when you enter.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Now do the Van Wyck. Disincentivizing cabs, livery, rideshare, car service, whatever else constantly clogs that that few miles of road that takes 25-30 minutes could be done in five.

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Does anyone have a good before screenshot of the same map view / area? I want to stitch together a before shot before I share so that people not from the area can get an idea of the change and not just immediately think "oh well my small town has traffic and it looks like that so what's the big deal"

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[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago

...if it isn't the bridge I said I'd cross... Wait, not going to pay that congestion charge.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 days ago
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