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His grand vision remains to leave Mastodon users in control of the social network, making their own decisions about what content is allowed or what appears in their timelines.

I don't use Mastadon cause I don't care for micro-blogging, but nevertheless, I like this.

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[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 33 minutes ago

My issue with mastodon is it’s strayed so much from its vision. I use misskey but there is not a ton of clients for it at the moment.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

How it started:

"Oh, non-profit tech company! How noble! I trust that!"

How it's going:

I have no interest in these hollow PR dance moves until CEOs are publishing compelling outlines of how they have instituted complex legal frameworks that mean they can't reverse (or others can't reverse) these cynical moves to temporarily sway public sentiment during a building phase without say... Being legally compelled to immediately forfeit all historical stock earned and donate any historical salary and bonus compensation to the Red Cross or children's cancer research. They won't though, at best, this is an option, subject to change at will.

Remember that Zuckerberg initially allowed those tampons in the men's rooms and got a little praise, because some men do have periods and require tampons. They were in little wicker baskets, with the lids propped open on full display as you walked into any of their global offices. Zuckerberg then quietly told them internally to start closing the lids in the basket by default, still there, but closed, and then to place them on a lower shelf out of the way and ultimately, you now see the headlines that he ordered them fully removed performatively.

Declarative statements matter from people with proven, consistent integrity - that trait is inconsistent with anyone who can successfully rise to the level of modern CEO.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

Micro-blogging didn't click for me, it's just so much less exciting than the forum format of Reddit / Lemmy :)

[–] DocumentingReality@lemmy.cafe 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I heard of Mastodon a couple of years ago. I was still on Twitter and Facebook. I am not really tech savvy, so I didn't bother to go over to Mastodon. It was until just recent, I thought I would give it a try.

Long story short, I am on Mastodon, and I decided to ditch both Twitter and Facebook. Because, I like the layout and the format much better than the two. I even joined Friendica (open source platform like Facebook). So, as I started getting used to these open source social media platforms. They are much better and I would support Mastodon with some donations from time to time.

I mean, why pay $8 to Elon Musk, when you can do pretty much the same things on Mastodon? I wasn't going to throw in my 8 bucks just to get a stupid tweetdeck. Mastodon has its own deck, and it's totally free!

I am still investigating other various social media (open source) sites. I may even join Pixelfeed (alternative to Instagram).

I know you have to make money....but for a guy like Elon Musk, who owns Tesla, Space X, and a few others...why does he really need to charge people money to use his platform? I mean, I know he can do whatever he wants...but he has the money to keep the site going...without charging people 8 bucks to get "Premium" service.

The only thing Mastodon doesn't have that X (Formerly Twitter) has, is the fact that you can watch (or upload) live streaming.

Maybe, in the future Mastodon will do that?

[–] MoondropLight@thelemmy.club 5 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I think it's unlikely that Mastodon (or other federated short form blogging platforms e.g. Pelorama) will integrate live-streaming as it's pretty far outside of the normal content they are built for. There is a project that does support live streaming and is federated though: Peertube https://joinpeertube.org/

[–] RGB@group.lt 1 points 1 hour ago

yould like for it to pickup - it is a google killer app

[–] droans@midwest.social 2 points 5 hours ago

WebRTC could be used to provide peer-to-peer streaming. The load on the servers would be very minimal since the feeds would be sent directly from the host to the viewers. A lot of live streaming and video conferencing apps already use it to keep their hosting costs down.

The downside is that the IP address of the viewers will be exposed, even over a VPN unless precautions are taken by the user or the application.

[–] DocumentingReality@lemmy.cafe 2 points 5 hours ago

I believe that since Tiktok is about to be banned - if no buyer is sought by Sunday, January 19; that a lot of people will flock to Red Note. Another Chinese-owned social media. Having said that, more and more people will start to try new alternative places. I like the idea of open source sites. I wished I have known this much sooner.

I like Odysee - an open source to Rumble - minus the ads. Unlike Rumble, you don't have to pay to remove ads (among other features). Odysee never has ads on their platform. Which I like a lot.

I am also on Pixelfed. That site is pretty cool!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 18 hours ago

I'm amazed, he actually stopped corruption before it started

[–] crossdl@leminal.space 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what the practicals of doing something like this will be, but it speaks a lot to who Eugen Rochko is.

He might also be an obtuse dick. I've gotten that vibe too. Still, good for him.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Good people are allowed to get annoyed when there's a ton of people complaining about non issues. From what I've heard Mastodon users are somewhat insufferable.

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even having ceded control, they will go down in history as a legend. More positively viewed then the likes of... other social media founders.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Will anyone be better than Tom?

Became everyone's friend, became a millionaire, retired, (so far?) avoided falling off the right wing conspiracy cliff. Kind of just a quiet dude.

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 7 points 20 hours ago

Lmaooo. I forgot about Tom. Which shows how good of a tech founder he was. Memorable, but not in the headlines every other day.

[–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Weird man, had no idea that rupert murdock bought MySpace?

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Goals, for sure. The guy just does whatever he wants at this point. I think he's doing photography now?

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

I read this as pornography, and was like I can believe that, this is the type of thing super rich bastards do. But then I googled it and realized that I got it wrong.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Notch was primed for that shit long before Minecraft took off. He posted early builds to 4chan, and was an active shitposter there.

The money just made him stop paying attention to anything else.

[–] sighofannoyance@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago (49 children)

Why is there this very loud chorus of people touting bluesky as alternative to twitter instead of the far superior Mastodon?

Bluesky you are basically swapping a tyrant against a benevolent dictator, that dictator can become corrupted or sell bluesky to Musk Elon later on.... That is not a solution that is more like procrastination.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Bluesky has jack dorsey, Twitter founder, in its DNA. Dorsey cheered musk on and they call each other friends. Bluesky is not the win people want it to be, it's just a bandaid for your conscience with the same infected wound under the surface.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Someone (probably bluesky) almost definitely spent a large sum of money on marketing/astroturfing for Bluesky

[–] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Because BlueSky has designers and Mastodon is a nightmare for new users. Same reason a lot of “superior” open source apps never take off. Devs are rarely also good designers. Until we start caring about normal people it will stay that way.

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Nightmare is massively overstating it. Mastodon's UI/UX is neither a nightmare nor difficult to use. People who say this stuff leave me scratching my head.

In my view, the only legitimate criticism of Mastodon is about the lack of an algorithm that's constantly bubbling content to the top, but that's a valid design choice that many people prefer over the toxic algos over at X/Twitter.

[–] crossdl@leminal.space 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Why can't the algo find me better content?"

Motherfucker, it's social media. You have to get social with people. Make a fucking friend, right?

Like, I fixed that shit by following George Takei and Mark Hamill and some reporters. The algo shouldn't be finding things for you. You should be finding people.

Yeah, scratching my head just the same. My only problem with Mastodon is the same I had with StumbleUpon. It's way too good about putting neat people and conversations in front of me and I feel bad not rising to the occasion more when I just want to deadbrain.

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

Following hashtags is also a great way to find content you're interested in.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 60 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Copy-pasting a comment from Aurich (Ars Staffer):

I set up the Ars Mastodon instance, and speaking as a relatively educated and technically savvy person I found it extremely confusing. And the more I learned later the more I don't feel remotely bad about being confused, it's honestly pretty messy.

I put Ars on the main instance, and I think it was the right call. We're not going to maintain our own, at least at this time, and trusting a random instance that's very difficult to vet is kinda sketchy.

We ran a guest editorial a while back that I think really clearly outlines the various issues:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/06/op-ed-why-the-great-twittermigration-didnt-quite-pan-out/

But you know, it's really okay. It doesn't have to be big, or popular or mainstream. As long as it survives and people like it? That's good enough.

I think going into an era of balkanization of social isn't the worst thing.

One of my complaints with Mastodon and similars is that you can't search only for posts of a specific instance, or temporarily mute a single instance from your feed. There's also some sort of "invisible wall" for Pleroma users (niche of a niche), as their public posts simply don't show up in public Mastodon searches, though I don't know whether that's a problem with Mastodon or Pleroma.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

The Mastodon devs have received a grant to work on a search/visibility tool in 2025, so I definitely expect developments there

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