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[–] fourish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

He did very well. If you put him up against little pp one would come off as an educated adult and one a petulant child who has never worked a day in his life.

β€œThose who do work, those who can’t - want to govern”.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This all but confirms he's running for the leadership. He did well, although this was very much a softball interview. I still don't think any Liberal leader will be able to manage better than a slim Conservative minority, though.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Oh I think they pretty easily can. The Conservatives have a long record of shooting themselves in the foot, and they've put all their hatred into a cult of personality, and now that personality is gone. The Fuck Trudeau and pretty boy mantras are going to ring pretty hollow against Carney.

Plus, PP is one of the weakest and most snivelling career politicians this country has ever seen, and people recognize that. The left vote in this country is still relatively strong, it just takes swinging a couple Conservative, Bloc, and NDP projected seats to remain in power.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

Plus, PP is one of the weakest and most snivelling career politicians this country has ever seen, and people recognize that.

He's a career attack dog. But when people are angry at the sitting government, all a ln opposite leader has to do is reflect that anger to get votes and he does that.

I agree that in principle he he can be defeated, but at this point it's a steep uphill battle and doing so would constitute a major political upset.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Fuck Trudeau and pretty boy mantras are going to ring pretty hollow against Carney.

If Carney becomes leader, I expect they'll pivot to WEF/Illuminati nonsense.

Whether that will work is another matter entirely.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago

Never forget:

[–] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If the Fed Libs want my vote back, they'll have to make good on their promise of electoral reform with the help of the NDP or Bloc before a confidence vote.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

That would be nice, but quite frankly, for my vote, they just have to be more competent seeming than Pierre or Singh.

At the end of the day, on election day, you don't get to choose the policies that people are running on, you just get to choose who you want most to lead of the available options (unless you decide to run for office, then you get to choose what policies you want to run on and see if people agree).

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

The Liberals will never, ever do it. It would be probably impossible to do before October, and frankly, unhinged to try to get it done before then, even if only from a logistical standpoint.

The fact that JT spent a decade not doing it, is forever a black mark on the Liberal party, imo. And in choosing to not do it, in effect, the Liberals salted the earth on the topic of electoral reform. Anyone who promises it now is going to get laughed out of the room.

Electoral reform is a symbol of the Liberal carrot and stick politics of the past decade.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's an uphill battle with all the media consolidation, but the support from Musk, and MAGA-annex has a chance to backfire on the Conservatives and Mr. 'Pension at 31 for me, 70 for everyone else'.

We have to push hard highlighting the fact that Musk/Trump are trying to take over Canadian Democracy through "economic force", and that the Conservative leadership are welcoming this with open arms, such as Smith's visit to Mar-a-Lago.

[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Here's my technocrat dream: we get Mark Carney as PM to fix all our economic woes (anemic growth, housing market, crappy resource-based economy that leans too much on oil/gas), and then get Andy Byford to replace Doug Ford.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The liberals do everything in their power to keep housing prices high. Trudeau himself even said that the majority of the Canada pension fund is invested in REITs

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There's a Montreal reporter that appeared in my random mainstream socials (that I'm too useless at to find again easily), I think Instagram, who got a list of all MP financial holdings for a piece on the housing crisis. Apparently 56% of conservative MPs and 53% of Liberal MPs are landlords (I'm remembering the approximate amount and relative levels), so of course they want to keep housing prices high. (If I ever figure out how to find a historical suggestion from my feed, I'll come back and post a link to the journalist's work)

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

I've seen that report before too. I failed to mention it's also in the best interests of the MPs to inflate their own properties.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Is there more detailed info on that?

I know MPs have to spend time between their home and Ottawa, and so I would understand renting out an apartment in Ottawa they don't live in full time.

I think there's a big difference between something like that and owning rental properties.

Edit: found the survey https://www.readthemaple.com/mp-landlords/

It's still hard for me to tell what exactly some MPs are doing, but there are definitely many quite involved in realty.

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

I believe it's a different journalist. He mentions the Maple article, but digs into more detail. I found the Instagram account, and he has a linktree to several socials, but I havenfound a non-instagram link to the articles yet. The linktree is: https://linktr.ee/duoduet?ltsid=b62e07bd-1ec9-4904-84c2-199d430adc73

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I love your dream, but besides being former Commissioner of the TTC, does Byford have any ties to Ontario? (EDIT Or any signs of having political ambitions?)

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca -5 points 4 days ago

I've heard he's got small hands and smells like cabbage