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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] kaprap@leminal.space 33 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I'm sorry if I sound tone deaf I am new to Lemmy .~.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 25 points 13 hours ago

Welcome to lemmy! For the most part lemmy is nice place to be. You will still we the occasional crazy though. Defiantly not something you see all the time. If you find a user, community or instance popping off a bunch of crazy the best thing to do is block them. You won't be missing anything without them.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

I nearly left lemmy because of Hexbear. Learning they could be blocked salvaged the platform for me. It's not just you - they are pretty widely reviled.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 18 points 13 hours ago

Welcome and there is zero need to apologize. Some people (and group of them) can be a real pain. Once you have learned how to filter them out, it's a nice place with nice people. There is no shame in blocking them, a bit like I would not let someone enter my home so they shout their nonsense into my ears, or make their mess on the carpet.

Once again, welcome ;)

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago
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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Tankies, mostly. They're on my blocklist,but managed to avoid it for a disgustingly long time; they do have some good content from time to time, but in the end seeing the repeated vitriol and genocide denialism simply wasn't worth it.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago

Yeah I think a lot of Lemmings tried to give them a chance when we first joined, because we are pretty left leaning already so we figured communists couldn't be that bad. Unfortunately, they're actually far more moronic and toxic than anyone could possibly imagine.

I used to recommend for people to make up their own mind whether to block them, but I now feel it's better to block them immediately, because they're really just the worst kind of people who will do anything to bring others down to their level of misery.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hexbear is a different instance where its users are basically a group of hard communism supporters. If you disliked their behavior, feel free to block their instance.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They are not only hard communists, they have 0 interest in propagating their ideas, they only insult and despise everyone who is not 100% in agreement with them. In the best case, and I don't think it is, it is an endogamous community only for themselves, the opposite of what a federated social network is

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 9 points 12 hours ago

I’ve had more issues with .world mods then any of the communist ones.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago

Yes, you should definitely block Hexbear. They're a toxic, angry group of people, who have no intention of ever engaging in good faith.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Hexbear.net, lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad.ml have a lot of extreme leftists who have very wild takes that could be mistaken for right wing takes.

I personally don't recommend blocking them because outside of political threads they make up a lot of the content/memes/discussions, but up to you if you want to try that out.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

they make up a lot of the content/memes/discussions

Shouldn't be "rewarding" them with content/activity, they only have like 2 or 3 communities that crack the top 20 in MAUs these days anyways. And they're all .ml

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've blocked all 3, I see comments from them but not posts.

Most of the communities are are slowly moving away anyway, given how many users don't want to engage with the instance at all.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

There's honestly a lot of high quality posts on lemmy.ml. Maybe some from Hexbear if you're into leftist niches like veganism

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 3 points 12 hours ago

Sure, but that content could go elsewhere where you can actually criticize China without catching a ban. And if those communities choose not to, that's their problem when more and more people decide to block their instance as not worth dealing with.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Actual leftists mostly, with a few crazies.

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[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee -3 points 10 hours ago

It's gross.

[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee -3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Hexbear, together with Lemmygrad and Lemmy.ml are left wing, communist instances here on Lemmy.

A lot of (new) users of Lemmy have very strong - as in negative - feelings about them because of their ideas. Which to me makes sense because a lot of these users tend to be more centrist in their views and have never read Marxist literature before.

I will be honest with you and tell you my experience: they can be dickish and straight up trollish in their behavior, but not anymore than your average online trolls. The actual main reason people dislike them, is because they stick together and sometimes "brigade" post which nominates them and talk shit about them.

I personally was on the receiving end of their trolling when I first joined Lemmy too. But among the trolls, there were also very nice users who gave me friendly replies. And I had great conversations with them.

Eventually I even decided to open an alt account in one of those instances to learn more about their views and engage with them on their political knowledge. I really enjoy learning from them and having open conversations about politics with them. Even when sometimes I see their more extreme opinions, I still try to always be open minded at first. More often than not, I will learn that something I used to think on a subject, was the result of historical misconceptions or straight up propaganda. That is not to say that they can't be wrong of course. But it pays off to be receptive about new points of view.

There are some elements that can be considered extreme, especially to someone from the general public who has never engaged in political conversations with someone who is very much to the left. It takes a little adjustment if you want to try and engage because so much of the media and literature we consume reinforce our views on the system while they specifically try to be critical of it.

Bur FOR SURE you will never see that instance be racist or bigoted. I have lost counts how many times I've seen that in other instances, but with them, you know exactly where they stand on that. As in, they do NOT tolerate that.

Tldr: Hexbear (with Lemmygrad and Lemmy.ml) are openly communist instances on Lemmy. They are very vocals because they have a large userbase. They can be trolls that stick together sometimes. If you are politically interested/involved, I instead recommend joining one of their instances to see for yourself.

Edit: you can also tell how much people here have a negative feeling about those instances by the reactions in this post. Everything remotely critical is upvoted, while anything that even hints a positive opinion of them, will be downvoted. And then more and more users will start downvoting without even reading the comments. And they will start attacking users because they disagree and feel the need to attack them because "that instance bad"...in a way not too dissimilar from the brigading I mentioned before for some of the users from those instances. Showing you a real life example of how there are extreme users in every online community

[–] dragonfucker 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Hexbear isn't a leftist instance.

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry this is not true. They are very aggressive and attack every viewpoint harshly when it disagrees with their very radical beliefs. The reason instances ban them is they are not here for the conversation. Nothing good comes from that community, only confrontation.

[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry this is not true.

It is true. That's MY experience with them

They are very aggressive and attack every viewpoint harshly

And? I do too when I'm heated about a topic. If your viewpoint is to defend fascism, why not attack it? And I'm not talking specifically about you here. But if we're debating, I expect someone to bring a good debate.

The reason instances ban them is they are not here for the conversation

Sorry this is not true.

And I already gave my explanation as to why in my original comment.

Nothing good comes from that community, only confrontation

So just like your comment? Lol jokes aside, I already addressed everything you said before. But I'm happy you were able to disagree and get it out of your system. I've noticed a lot of Lemmy users have this weird obsession with those instances, when in reality they are just instances. They have both shitty and normal users. It's always more nuanced than that.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io -5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just cleaning up after your whitewashing. Good try though. Their community is just a bunch of trolls like you said. I'm glad the instance I use block overtly toxic ones.

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