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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 24 points 4 hours ago

Yes I'm sure he'll crack down hard on all the tech companies that are giving him millions of dollars and kissing his feet...

What a moron.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 57 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Taking the time to remove Google, embraced proton mail ... Maybe it's time to just write letters and send meme post cards.

[–] LeonenTheDK@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 hours ago

Meme post cards are a great idea actually.

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[–] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 hours ago

Well, that's a platform I'm leaving now.

[–] PromptX@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I moved from proton to tuta recently :D

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[–] tomatol@lemm.ee 43 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Very disappointing that this is the CEO and founder of Proton. I'll be moving my stuff elsewhere and deleting my account this week.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago

Just canceled my subscription.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 hours ago

Sure, yeah, anti-big tech.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

Did he (the CEO) really need to do this? Orange 🍄 Guy's probably never even heard of Proton. The transition for me from Tuta to Proton was long and rough, so I'm not prepared to jump ship just yet and really hope I won't have to.

[–] Ballissle@lemmy.zip 29 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Ffs. I just switched a ton of stuff over to proton. Hopefully this is an individuals view and not that of the company as a whole.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

Nope, unfortunately. See official response posted above.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat. What a shit show.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It was intended to kind of be my new primary universe for personal communications, leaving behind Google for work/biz.

But......... maybe the water is warmer at Tutanota?

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[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Yeah ..... One leads straight to the other.....

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (10 children)

Biden's pick Lina Khan deserves all the credit for aggressively prosecuting anti-competitive practices. However, Gina Slater looks like someone capable of continuing that work and a legitimate admirer of Lina Khan. Yes there are ties to Vance and the FTC office is likely to end up beholden to the egomaniac in chief. So the whole "little man" thing aside (that's baloney), that's one person that's not a shit stain out of all the shit stains in the incoming cabinet.

Look Lemmy, you're welcome to choose what you want in your life and what you don't. But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project's founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist. If you look at this Lemmy development co-leader's opinions on transgenderism, are you going to stop using this software that lets you converse on an LGBTQ+ safe-space instance with no involvement on a social level from said developer/founder?

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 hours ago

Vance, the U.S. vice president-elect, has said antitrust officials should take a broader approach to antitrust enforcement, and praised the work of Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan

Reading this confuses me greatly because republicans, especially Jim Jordan from what I remember, have been harassing and preventing Lina Khan and the FTC from taking action against big corporations.

Hell of she is doing such a great job, why fire her and replace her with a snake whose views are the antitheses of Khan's outlook.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

No, it's not only one person in the board. They confirmed their stance via their official Mastodon account. https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project’s founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist

That's the truth. The reason online "communities" constantly argue and never get anything done is because everyone is focused on not doing the wrong things that they forget about doing the right things. A while ago I saw a post making fun of some chuds who compiled a list of "woke" video games that they wanted to boycott. The people in this thread deciding to leave proton because its ceo said something positive about trump once don't strike me as much different.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The lemmy devs may have opinions, but they've never interfered with blahaj zone or anything

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 125 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Standing up for the little guy. Huh. Is that why billionaires and CEO are throwing literal tens of millions at Trump? Why he staffed his cabinet with billionaires? Why the center of his policy is tax cuts for the giga wealthy, at the expense of everyone else and the national debt, at a time where wealth inequality is literally tearing the country apart?

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/15/trump-windfall-fundraising-500-million

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/trump-wealth-cabinet-politicians-billionaires

These are objective, public facts. Like, I'm way more conservative than Lemmy’s center and willing acknowledge any good Trump does, but what reality is this guy living in? Who is this statement for? Who the heck does he think is using Proton services? He just pissed off his employees and customers for… What?

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 28 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Probably doesn't want to get banned in the US... Or so my copium tells me.

Silver lining is that Proton is owned by a non-profit.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking this for a second, but is this really plausible? Normally when we talk about corporations we talk about how powerful they are and how they use different nations to locate headquarters and offices in order to mitigate legal and tax obligations. We regularly talk about how governments can't reign them in and how they act with impunity.

But now? "They HAVE to capitulate. They are just doing it to survive." Really? Do we really believe that? Or is it more likely that this is what they want and if they didn't, they'd be fighting tooth and nail to stop it? I'm with the second option honestly.

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[–] HorikBrun@kbin.earth 211 points 8 hours ago (25 children)
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[–] earmuff@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 hour ago (6 children)

People have private lifes. CEO‘s too. I don’t see why I should remotely care what the personal opinion of a CEO is. And I am deeply concerned that this is such a big deal, no matter what their opinion is.

If you have a personal problem with that, that‘s totally okay. Putting them on a stand, is not okay. Let them have an opinion. Debate if you disagree. But stop making such a scene out of everything.

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[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 26 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

...and you're out. That's enough for me.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Dude got weird "Libertarian" vibes:

But he's just one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG, not really a doomsday event... yet.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 57 points 7 hours ago (13 children)

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and that applies to tech. I pay for Proton and this is disappointing af but not shocking. Corporations and wannabe billionaires always fold to fascism.

Gonna start looking around at alternative email services to consider but I use my Proton email everywhere, so switching away is going to suck.

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[–] definitely_human@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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