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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Just as I finally see Chinese culture gaining more global cultural relevance--- and it had to be in order to bypass a ban of an intrusive app.

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[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 17 hours ago (19 children)

No one is learning any language using shitty Duolingo all they are learning is how to parrot useless phrases and vocab with no explanation on how to form sentences or actually use the language properly for themselves.

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 25 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And it's so fucking slow. Like yeah I remember the word for man and woman please stop asking me to click on it especially with the image next to it..

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Its called spaced repetition. Its helpful for people to remember something over repeated learning.

If you find it too easy, you can choose to jump ahead or find better alternatives.

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I know spaced repetition, but it's too much repetition and not enough space. The jump ahead feature is bad because you just do the quiz twice until you success then you jumped without knowing previous stuff and you're stuck with once again slow minded repetition just that it's now a more "advanced" vocabulary

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Fair enough. I have benefited from Duolingo as a practice tool. But I do see Duo being tedious for people who truly wish to progress faster.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

Isn’t Mandarin grammar super easy? It is relatively easy to speak, definitely less so to read/write.

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[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

i tried learning spanish with it, now i know how to order a hamburger with cheese but it won't teach me much else... just the same fucking sentence over and over again. every now and then it drops in a new word and then we're back to the hamburger thing.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Hamburgesa con quesa? Muy bien

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago

I dunno, I found it helped me with German a bit.

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hate is justified as it turns people away from actually learning a language

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, isn't that great!..

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 27 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Can anyone explain to me what makes TikTok and now this RedNote so much better than the other short form options (YT, Insta... others) that people think learning a completely different and unfamiliar language is not only viable, but the best option?

I want to learn another language for travel purposes, which to me makes sense. I've never had the itch to learn one so I could use a social media platform.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago

I wouldn’t overthink it. It’s just a youthful rebellion/protest thing. Old people banned an app young people like and young people were like, “Ok, fine. We’ll use a different app, assholes.” And they found one even more Chinese just to be obnoxious.

But to answer your primary question, Instagram is a bloated app with a terrible algorithm made by a garbage company owned by a garbage person. But just as important, Instagram is also where TikTok users’ parents are. Youths don’t want to hang out with friends where their parents are watching. Hell, I’m middle-aged and I was annoyed when my mom followed me on Instagram. Like, “Stay on Facebook, mom. That’s the boomer app.”

I’m sure almost every TikTok user is a YouTube user too. But YouTube Shorts isn’t the same as TikTok. Shorts are basically a way for established creators who make longer, professional videos to make little casual ones between their main video releases. It’s not a drop-in replacement for TikTok. The vibe is different. (If Shorts had been released as a totally separate app with a separate algorithm, it’d be a drop-in replacement for TikTok but they just duct taped it onto YouTube proper.)

Plus, the data and national security excuses were always horseshit. Congress was trying to protect American dominance in social media and during the debate, members of Congress said their issue with TikTok was that it didn’t have an Israel boner. https://forward.com/culture/688840/tiktok-ban-gaza-palestine-israel-antisemitism/

Forward is a publication aimed at a Jewish audience, for the record, so that’s not some antisemitic conspiracy theory.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 11 points 15 hours ago

They said a 216% spike

That could be an extra 15 people

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

sick society

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[–] Luckiesock@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that this post is a total load of bs.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (4 children)
[–] Luckiesock@lemm.ee -2 points 7 hours ago

My niece is one of tiktok's victims and she is as young and lazy to even construct herself a sandwich. Nevermind learning a language as confusing and backwards as mandarin or Cantonese.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Could it be just bots?

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[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I've just learned how to say fuck America, 他媽的美國

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Que se cague China, América, Rusia... la lista sigue

Stop sucking superpower's dicks

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

so instead of 25 people learning Mandarin now there are 79 people learning Mandarin.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

About 15 years ago there was a saying that optimists are learning Russian now.

Pessimists Chinese.

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