I question whether lawyers are smart enough to understand what API means sometimes... They clearly aren't using YouTube's API so the whole letter is just false accusation. Maybe read the code first before making stupid allegations? No? This is a shitty for profit company? Makes sense in the current landscape I guess, all the shitty for profit services want to drive themselves into the ground for no reason now.

[–] neosheo@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'll be honest i haven't read their code. So invidious is just scraping youtube to pull all the data?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago

Just scraping, so they're not bound by the API TOS. Like YouTube-DL, YT-DLP, NewPipe, etc.

[–] drwho@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Yes. And the big G doesn't care. If they have to lie and say it's abusive and a violation of the ToS, they'll say it is. They're a megacorp, while Invidious is a small open source project.

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

According to the GitHub thread, yes. I think that's how all of the open source apps work - youtube-dl, NewPipe, Invidious at least. Using the API would open them up to legal trouble because you have to agree to the terms to use the API. You don't agree to the terms when scraping.

[–] neosheo@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

good, i use them a lot!

[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 3 points 2 years ago

Happy cake day!

[–] CaptainAlchemy@lemmy.one 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

HELLO?? Am I in some kind of weird fever dream? Can the people running the matrix simulation tap the breaks so I can actually assess one platform burning at a time please?

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago

I like it myself, so much excitement all of a sudden :)

[–] drwho@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Things escalated, folks. They got a C&D:

https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-orders-invidious-privacy-software-to-shut-down-in-7-days-230609/

Start backing up the source repos now.

[–] rk96@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

This c&d wont do much since invidious didnt agree to any terms of service nor do they use youtube's API, that is atleast what the developers of invidious said on github

[–] nodiet@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

It seems to me that this article just describes the same situation as the github issue. I think they just used the term cease and desist. So no further escalation from what I can tell.

[–] mranderson17@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

So.... Maybe I'm wrong about this, but doesn't Invidious basically do the same thing that Google AMP claims to do. Cache scraped web data and return it to users in a ~~faster~~private, and more direct way? Maybe Google should be agreeing to more TOSs =]