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Are you guys tired of the "Material You" design? I don't really like the huge paddings on everything aspect of it. Also a lot of it feels too flat. What do you guys think?

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[–] quortez@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I like MY — I just wish I could design more of it on the user side.

Auto generated colorschemes are great and give Android a level of class it has been missing for a while. But I wish I didn't have to rely on a third party app like Repainter to finely choose my palette rather than hope the theme engine makes a good one. I also resent my icon shape, font, and icon options being ripped away from me.

There was a section on the original MY Google IO announcement that implies that the padding and roundness could be freely adjusted throughout the system. I wish that materialized (rimshot) into the final product.

The only objective regression I can think of with MY, rather than just an annoyance, is the Quick Settings. A merged internet toggle that no one asked for, a further reduction in a available toggles from Android 11, and not even bothering to make the Bluetooth toggle one of the fancy expanding ones instead of sending you to settings or surfacing the audio playback toggle (why can't I change the output before I play media, Google?). Ugh.

[–] FairLight@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I like it, I don't know

[–] phi1997@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I hate it. I wish it and similar flat, ugly UIs weren't everywhere. I get that some people like them, but I wish I could have all my devices' UIs look they way I want them to. Give me skeumorphic, glassy UIs any day.

[–] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, I love it.

[–] isdfoa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a fan - also I think material you allows for good interpretation/flexibility in terms of branding so that not all apps look exactly the same cookie cutter style.

[–] Aninjanameddaryll@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I was tired of it before they launched it.

[–] lightrush@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I'm still liking it a lot.

[–] FVVS@l.lucitt.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm not going to say Google doesn't waste space. There's definitely a difference between stylistic padding, and literally not using a section of the screen for no reason.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reading from an app that uses material you design

I like it. I wish it was a little more customizable though. How much larger you want your headlines to be, for example. But I guess that's up to app developers.

All in all a pretty nice and comfy looking design language I think.

[–] Yasuke@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Impersonally like iOS designs. I like when things like Apollo follow the stock feel. It normally comes out nice.

[–] FierroGamer@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

I'm pragmatic, as long as it's easy on the eyes and conducive to read (in the sense in which you "read" an image, can't think of a better word), I'm good. I have always tended to cram everything and the kitchen sink in one screen and the push for material you has taught me the importance of a clean composition.

For now I'm good, but I'm open to change.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I thought it looked really weird before I got to use it, and I still think that, now that both the apps I use, and my OS, have received the updated to M-You. I think it uses the available space horribly, and the color schemes it attempts to provide never feel like what I want

[–] kadu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I love Material You when apps are designed to work with Monet color theming and use the default system navigation bar. Apps that deviate from that become an eye sore.

That being said, Material isn't my favorite design language for mobile OSes. I still prefer interfaces based on layers of gaussian blur, like iOS 7, Windows' Aero and similar.

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

My short answer is no, matter of fact I'd like to see it being used even more. I really like Material You and I think it's one of the best design languages I've seen so far.

Before Material, I generally didn't mind UI languages that much, I just liked the #holoyolo lifestyle because it was dark. Material 1 came and I hopped on the praise DuARTe bandwagon until its end, but when I look back, I never actually liked it, nor did I dislike it. I always thought it was too square and a bit aggressive.

Material 2 is one that I disliked. It seemed like they just took away all the color and plastered whitespace everywhere just for the sake of making something different. There was no thought on form or function, it was just trendy minimalism (I love minimalism, but trendy minimalism is just that, taking away form and function just because less = more). That's also when I changed to Samsung devices and would barely see Material design anymore.

At first, I didn't believe in Material You. I liked what Google was trying to do, but all we had were design concepts that, as usual, never come to light. Then I started seeing it more and more and I understood. It seems like every piece of the puzzle fits together beautifuly, something that can join form and function without being a detriment to each other. The colors are subtle but there's enough contrast and shades to fit everywhere. The elements aren't square enough to seem like an outdated, old design, and also aren't too round to seem like it's trying too hard to be modern. The paddings are just right, and like another user here said, are very important to separate information and content. Obviously there are many flaws, but with a few tweaks, Material You could be a behemoth in design languages.

[–] blobcat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I love material you, the 'flatness' and pastel colors look really good to me (android 14 is going to introduce more colors outside of pastels though)

[–] Marxine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My main issue is the lack of good contrast, it really hurts.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ayyndrew@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Same, I like how playful it can be

[–] Laice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

i always disliked material and material you. They look too coperate.

[–] PangolinAlone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm okay with it, except for the sliders. I can't seem to differentiate 90%-100%

[–] pixel@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

I love it and I wish more apps used it, it's actually a really good design interface and android's bigger problem is design fracturing than any particular design paradigm being bad. So many iOS apps feel like part of the same platform, and so many reddit apps are still using fucking holo UI

[–] merryflag0655@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wasn't a fan at the beginning, now I think it's great.

[–] Never_Sm1le@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing I hate about MY is its comically big quick settings. Give me back the Android 11 quick settings and it will be fine (the Internet QS be damned)

[–] isti115@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you are not afraid to experiment with some more advanced tools, AOSPMods has options to set the number of quick settings rows and columns, which worked well for me. (I was initially annoyed by this change as well, but I eventually got used to it.)

[–] RaulitoElLobito@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] TwinTurbo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I hate that desaturate bluish background that is everywhere now. A lot of the apps look the same, and the removal of colours from notification icons just makes everything feel flat, soulless, and unsuitable for quick glances.

[–] hydra@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's nice as long as you have a custom ROM with root to tweak it. It's UNUSABLE on its default state.

But I still miss Holo and its mystique so much, it was perfect on small screens and needed some tweaking to be a mature, elegant, unique and expressive UI design language.

[–] sacbuntchris@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What changes do custom roms let you make?

[–] hydra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True black background for OLED displays, AOSP Mods suite for 3 columns on quick settings, split WiFi/Data toggles, better scaling options for launchers, Lineage trebuchet launcher and derivatives, isolate apps like Google Calculator and Gboard off networking, theme engine tweaks for better generated colors and more.

[–] pacjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Pretty much anything you can think about (even bringing back old QS or power menu). And if this isn't enough rooting enables you to make even bigger changes with apps such as Iconify or Substratum

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