this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2025
486 points (96.6% liked)

Political Discussion and Commentary

278 readers
274 users here now

A place to discuss politics and offer political commentary. Self posts are preferred, but links to current events and news are allowed. Opinion pieces are welcome on a case by case basis, and discussion of and disagreement about issues is encouraged!

The intent is for this community to be an area for open & respectful discussion on current political issues, news & events, and that means we all have a responsibility to be open, honest, and sincere. We place as much emphasis on good content as good behavior, but the latter is more important if we want to ensure this community remains healthy and vibrant.

Content Rules:

  1. Self posts preferred.
  2. Opinion pieces and editorials are allowed on a case by case basis.
  3. No spam or self promotion.
  4. Do not post grievances about other communities or their moderators.

Commentary Rules

  1. Don’t be a jerk or do anything to prevent honest discussion.
  2. Stay on topic.
  3. Don’t criticize the person, criticize the argument.
  4. Provide credible sources whenever possible.
  5. Report bad behavior, please don’t retaliate. Reciprocal bad behavior will reflect poorly on both parties.
  6. Seek rule enforcement clarification via private message, not in comment threads.
  7. Abide by Lemmy's terms of service (attacks on other users, privacy, discrimination, etc).

Please try to up/downvote based on contribution to discussion, not on whether you agree or disagree with the commenter.

Partnered Communities:

Politics

Science

founded 5 months ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I swear back in the 20th century there were a lot of regular people around the world who would not hesitate to beat the shit out of any Nazi they came across. Where'd they all go?

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

Same thing here. Even as recently as the 2000s Nazis were still seen as utterly pathetic people... now they are somehow rapidly mainstream education since 2015...

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I'm right here.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

Dead, they are dead.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fascism is here.

All the signs are present.

Doesn't matter that it's America. Fascism can happen anywhere, at any time.

Purchase a firearm. Learn to use it.

[–] OmgItBurns@discuss.online 2 points 6 hours ago

I would go so far to say: If you can find classes that train you in how to use the firearm under stress take those. If you have access to training courses that help reinforce those lessons, train there.

I want to be hopeful that these precautions are unnecessary but at this point this falls under better safe than sorry territory

[–] NudeNewt@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Remember folks you skin the hair off a Nazi from the front to back so you can see the visible anguish and dismay as the pot meets the kettle 🥰❤

[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

The Whitest Kids You Know Hitler Rap feels awfully familiar for the times.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just because we do Nazi Salutes and make Nazis feel comfortable DOESNT make us Nazis and makes YOU a Nazi actually!

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of "Antifa are the actual fascists". They do love to twist everything.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

New? Aren't they the old nazi party too?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

As the party that welcomed and absorbed in the dixiecrats. They were literally the inspiration for Hitler and Mussolini.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (20 children)

They are fascists. They are not nazis. Nazis ate WWII era German fascists that attempted to create the ubermensch and create a 1000 year reich.

Nazis are a different flavor of fascism

[–] the_three_tomatoes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I agree that they are facists but they seem to have an incredible focus on Hitler and Nazism imported from Nazi Germany.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If they aren't Nazis, why are they running the same playbook Nazis did at the beginning and PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS?

If they don't want to be Nazis, just regular fascists, maybe they shouldn't use Nazi salutes.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fascism is like cancer of humanity, it has been on remission for a while and now its starting to come back possibly even worse because it couldn't be eradicated when weakened.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It always holds appeal for some especially people born into wealth that are personally insecure. I suspect that's why American schools dont really teach kids about the fundamentals of fascist philosophy.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't teach them this because it would lead them to believe we have been a fascist country since the creation of the military industrial complex. That is not exactly what we want our students learning.

Much like we whitewash all of history to make ourselves out to be the good guys and not the genocidal death cult maniacs we are.

It is not like we have not been warned for several decades now what has been happening.

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Military Industrial Congressional complex (Congress was removed from the speech before Ike gave it) was created after fascism was defeated in Europe. I would suggest we had people attempting to instill it since the 1900s but they only just got through.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Indeed there have been instances of business trying to do this decades before his speech.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

As I alluded to we have always been flirting or in recent times outright embracing fascism.

When you realize we were a country founded by the wealthy for the wealthy you begin to understand why we have these issues.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Fate and direction of humanity might depend on how well americans resist now. america has way too much military power and nukes.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who cares? They are Nazis as far as idiot Americans are concerned. The asterix you seem to feel is necessary is not.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (16 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›