I've never met a conservative that wasn't a trash human if I dug deep enough.
Universally uninformed and hateful. Prerequisites for the ideology.
this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2025
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I was a conservative. I am not a trash human.......um....I am also not remotely conservative anymore, so...hmmm. 🤔
I know conservatives that are alright. But they drank the koolaid...
I think a lot of them need an antidote more than exile. But it's hard to find it for them..
They could be allies still.
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They probably thought lemmy was to reddit what truth/gab was to twitter (pre-elon twitter that is), or if you're memory is long enough, voat to reddit.
Like nah dude. Not all social media spinoffs are righties being mad they couldn't drop n-bombs.
I'm here cuz the RedditAlternatives sub on Reddit sent me here. Said it was the most populated Reddit alternative. I thought "Ok, but is it a right wing cesspool". Turns out it's not and the discourse here is much better than on Reddit.
Fellow Reddit refugee here who saw a very similar (possibly the same) post. Opened my eyes to the fediverse and I'm happy I made the jump.
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thats what I thought lemmy was for the longest before joining, just another voat
I too tried Voat way back in the day, part of a small Reddit exodus when they were removing Snowden articles in worldnews without explanation (back when the user base of Reddit still cared about moderator transparency), and I learnt quickly that if a platform advertises itself as "censorship free" or something along those lines, what they really mean is "we thrive on hate speech here."
And after a few more years of checking out Reddit alternatives, I started to realise that basically all of them were "censorship free" and tailor made for trolls and bigots from banned Reddit communities like fatpeoplehate and jailbait.
By the time I heard about Lemmy, even though I didn't get the impression that it was just another Voat, I was also kinda disillusioned about ever finding a good Reddit alternative at that point. So I didn't bother trying.
And it has been a very pleasant surprise to find out how left wing it is here. That reputation is actually what made me try Bluesky before coming here and if I had known, I would've come here sooner. Finally an alternative that isn't just r/conservative - the website. And not just that, a platform that isn't full of 'centrists' that spend more time worrying about making sure the left wingers don't swear too much, then worrying about the right wingers taking people's rights away.
Fuuuuuuuck, that's a site I haven't thought of in a long time.
Helping people get off of corporate social media is significantly more important to me than maintaining Lemmy's political identity.
Hopefully the fediverse can serve as a deradicalizing force for these reactionary newcomers. However it is interesting that they would want to use federated social media over corporate social media, given their worldview idolizing the market and meritocracy.
To narcissists any attention is good attention.
Off topic, but downvotes are not always an indication that a comment is of low quality.
I've never wanted to engage these people, but after Trump stripped the security from Fauci and Bolton and Pompeo, I have a morbid curiosity to see how'd they justify it. I mean, really, how do you defend stripping protection from your political opponents, who you know are being targeted by extremists, with no real justification or even reasoning beyong them being political opponents?
Don't bother looking for justifications. They are infinite, because they are not honest. If their side does it, they're in favor of it, no matter what they do.
It's best to point out that this is what's going on, that many others don't do this, and after people read your comment, they're left seeing the truth of the soulless, valuelessness of that behavior. It'll make people slightly less likely to do it each time this repeats.
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Users can have upvotes and downvotes disabled in settings so they are never see how many vote up or down.
In my mobile client I don't see down votes and I like it that way. Today I logged in on my desktop and saw them. So I went through my comment history laughing for a while. I think I was down voted the most when I had something negative to say about neoliberals.
I am unbothered being down voted and think generally that the whole upvote tally can lead to groupthink in general. Being able to disable viewing them is a good design choice that could be made better being site | instance wide.
As a social experiment I wonder how much we have become accustomed to internet points as a form of self validation. If a large whole instance was segregated for a month or two and had disabled the voting tally, what would the engagement look like? Is it all ego driven?
Totally agree with you in relation to groupthink and it's the main reason I have them disabled too. I don't like my opinion of a comment to be influenced by others before I've even finished reading it.
I like that lemmy lets you see the upvotes and downvotes separately rather than just an aggregate like Reddit has. It's hard to tell when you see something has 1 or zero votes what people generally think but it might turn out that you have 100 upvotes and 100 downvotes and it just happens to add up to zero but you hit on something that's actually deeply controversial. That info is nice to have.
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They absolutely are incapable of believing they are wrong at all. Every solution that includes them being correct or in the right are the only viable ones and everything else is a trick, or a lie, or "buzzword here". They are conspiracy theorists and suffer the same deep logical failings.
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