Something tells me those comms are a place for tankies to go mask-off and enjoy just being who they really are.
Stethoscope theory is fucking CRUSHING the classification of these cretins.
this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2025
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Meh. Lemmy is for them too, even if they are outnumbered.
Does...does it have to be?
I kinda want them here so they can be exposed to leftist ideas and become thigh-high wearing, Linux using furries.
But that's probably just me huffing hopium
"I can fix them..." ~Common thought in an abusive relationship
It's not going to work, at best they see themselves as a "missionary" whose purpose is to convert us from our "ways" and they're not going to allow themselves to be converted.
Conservatives do change. Exposure is key. We're where we are at because the rich have isolated us in echo-chambers. Speaking as a former conservative whose entire family across 3 generations shifted to the left. I caution your thinking they're a lost cause.
It's less about an abusive relationship and getting them therapy.
Some can and do, increasingly we're in an age where conservativism is a dogma akin to a religion (and often entwined with it, of course) and that won't change. I don't think we need to shun all conservatives but we need to have a low tolerance for them if they don't show that inclination. Being conciliatory to these people, by and large, is what has gotten us to this point
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They are not conservatives because they haven't "heard the good word", to borrow a phrase. Decades of pop culture and daily life have delivered the message that you should be a decent person, accept differences, treat others with the respect and dignity, and help those in need. They grew up exposed to those messages in movies, tv, comic books, and from their teachers, families, and mentors. They chose to disregard or actively oppose those messages. And they choose to keep doing it every day. They are just broken people. They are disgusted by those notions. They want to rid those messages from media and public discourse altogether. That's what all the anti-woke shit is. A rejection of decency, acceptance, and the desire to fix injustices. I don't have patience or the time in the day to read their bad faith self-righteous bullshit opinions that are both wrong on the face of it, and usually divorced from reality entirely. Fuck em.
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Depends. Do you believe in freedom of speech and freedom of opinion? Do you want the Fediverse to be an open, decentralized protocol?
ngl I dont wanna be somewhere where furries or conservartives are the main audience, we gotta have a middle ground lol
Free and welcoming are two extremely different things. I want conservatives to be free to come to Lemmy, I do not want conservatives to be welcome to come to Lemmy.
fascists and their sympathizers (also fascists) should not feel comfortable in polite company. I am saying this very diplomatically.
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They're absolutely free to spin up their own Lemmy instances. However, that doesn't mean other instances have to host their comms or federate with their misinformation spreading instances
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They can go to Reddit or x or one of the many other services the conservatives own. They should have a miserable time existing outside their walled safe spaces until they decide to stop being evil filth.
Truth social is hurting for members.
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Unpopular opinion, but I don't really mind them, for now. They are not that imposing and I like to see the other viewpoint occasionaly, as I don't use other social networks. Makes me feel like I'm in less of a bubble here.
I'm okay with downvotes.
Homie I have been all over the internet and Lemmy has gotta be the worst lefty bubble/echo chamber I have ever seen.
Even in their own sub conservatives get downvoted into oblivion. If that's not indictive of a heavy bias left I don't know what is.
Im a left leaning moderate and I get downvoted constantly because I refuse to parrot the hivemind nonsense 24/7.
When I first got here I sorted everything by most commented and there was a thread someone made where they were asking if it was a good thing that the site was a massive lefty echo chamber. He got downvoted and anyone in the comments that had even a remotely moderate take was also downvoted.
I'm glad people like you still exist. I fear that the majority of the left just plugs their ears and starts screaming "LALALALA" the moment anyone challenges their view points even slightly. It's extremely concerning behavior.
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Agreed. Lemmy feels very homogenous. A few dissenting viewpoints is healthy.
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How can you look at what is happening in the US and say they are not imposing?
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small c individual conservatives, sure. I count a few as my friends.
Big C Donald Trump, JD Vance, Musk, Bezos, Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, Theresa May, Marine Le Pen etc? Fuck offff
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These are people ostracized from less extreme groups. The only places they find acceptance is with people like them, leading to an echo chamber where the most insane ideas can fester and grow. I think the solution to the issue of having extremists among us is to do the hardest imaginable thing and accept them into our communities and keep it positive and short when correcting things. "I hope that kind of thing doesn't hurt a lot of people." Or whatever. We're silly animals who will do anything to be accepted by our chosen group including learning to think differently.
Yes, but boundaries are extremely important if you're going to do it. 100% agree that people become extremists in the first place because an extremist group welcomed them with open arms when no one else would. But you run the risk of falling into the tolerance paradox...under no circumstances should anyone's intolerance be tolerated.
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My question is why are they so mad about banning X links?
Because it harms Nazi daddy Elon
How fucking hard would it be to spin up a Lemmy instance, you know? Conservatives too fucking stupid to buy hosting and run an install package lol
iirc there used to be a far right instance on Lemmy displaying Nazi imagery and shit, but they got defederated by almost everyone else and they're either banned in Germany now or the instance is dead
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The funny thing is how … not even far… rather how crazy IMHO it seem to have gone.
I like reading conservative stuff; I like being challenged in my opinions and thinking…
But browsing through r/conservative was an effing joke - all woo and no substance
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