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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 49 points 1 week ago

It is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to do anything about this, or any of the other many shotgun shenanigans rolling out of the White House of late. They've got all three branches of the federal government, laws clearly do not apply, and Trump himself has explicit permission from SCOTUS to commit crimes.

Any opportunity to stop all of this was at the beginning of November.

No, there is no stopping it, not any time soon. If there's a midterm election, there might be a chance of wresting back one (or one half) of those branches of government, but even if Democrats take control of one or both houses, they don't have the best track record of doing anything about it.

It will not end well, and when shit goes sideways, it's gonna happen fast.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Did we stop them from building the internment camps at the border in his last term?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Did we stop the Biden administration from using them once Trump built them? No, no we did not.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay now that we agree concentration camps bad, what is your opionion on trump making new ones?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also bad I expect these to rapidly go from detention camps to work camps.

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[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Nice try, FBI

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be mad about it and have a negative opinion about the US.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Better then trying to deflect it on the democrats through some crazy mental gymnastics.

Sorry, I've been getting trolled since about 10PM last night.

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[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out...

I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options... There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I've been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible... The people need to know. I've even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they're doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that... I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can't see society go this way.

I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do... I don't even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there's that.

Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up... Murphy's law I suppose

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Yeah, I voted for Harris. Unfortunately, 6.27 Million 2020 Biden voters did not do the same.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone who was supposed to prevent this and had the power to do so either tried and failed or didn't bother.

Right now the objective is "Survive", the bad guys have already won.

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[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 28 points 1 week ago

Those who could do something about it won't.

Those who would do something about it can't.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Gonna be tough to stop the creation of the camp since it’s in Cuba but there are orgs that are rolling out strategies to protect people in their communities from getting caught up in this. Check out your local orgs and see who is working on this and cooperate with them.

Internet search for ICE watch and your city or region would be a good place to start. And I know people hate Reddit but a lot of people on my local sub are talking about this too.

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[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Recommenting from another post:

I sent a text to those I love in any capacity, even former coworkers who’ve probably deleted my number. Not a group text - one by one. I think it’d be prudent for all US readers to consider doing the same.

Knowing some of you are like me, in that you might not know how to word such a text to someone not expecting it from you, I offer you my copy/pasted text:

America has a concentration camp now. I won’t send you anything more…it’s kind of rude that I’m sending this one. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/donald-trump-announces-plan-to-send-migrants-guantanamo-bay/

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A consideration to the ending of slavery in the United States was the advent of photography. Film was used to share the horror of the Nazi concentration camps in WW2 because they knew there would be people who deny history. Israel denied access and targeted journalists in Gaza for over a year for a reason.

Public perception sways from indifference to protests when they can't look away from the destructive results. It's the whole reason black sites like Guantanamo Bay exist in the first place and were used to hold extradited citizens without due process for years, they want to pretend the Constitution doesn't exist and they haven't sworn oaths to it and will do everything they can to hide their crimes.

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[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I dunno man....are you? I can't afford to go to prison. I have three kids that rely on me for sustenance and a house. Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently. I'm emailing politicians, trying to make good points online, and protest. I think that's all I can do right now. Now, if my family is threatened, or I can no longer provide for my family, then we'll talk again.

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[–] tree@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Is there anything Americans could do to petition other countries to help us? ICC or the UN? Or in civil court, could we crowdfund lawyers to sue the government?

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Maybe we can start by looking at all the corporations who are most supporting him, and push hard for boycotts. It might be slightly indirect, but corporate partners do seem to have the most influence on policy decisions. Maybe we could make a document in the style of the PrivacyGuides project to help people choose alternatives to fascist supporters.

I've seen posts on Mastodon calling for the general strike as well.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I don't genuinely think there is anything we can do without getting rid of our current government in its entirety. That or stuff I won't say online.

Maybe an actually successful general strike?

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[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Guantanamo bay was a thing ever since 2002. Biden and Obama tried to make it smaller. Trump is trying to grow it. If there was a clear action to be done that ended this abhorrence it would have been done by now already, but it has proved too resilient already. So no, there isn't anything that's gonna be done about it, except grow it as per Trump's request.

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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

We have had one there for 25 years now.

[–] deleteme@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I’m sure the private prison industry will lobby to use them as slaves

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

And then the US said to Germany, "We too, can do Auschwitz."

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think the only ways to stop this is passing a bill prohibiting using money on GITMO like the Republicans did with the prohibition of spending money to close GITMO.

Or lawsuits.

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