anyone letting elon put a chip in their brain is a moron.
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Or desperate. Forget the investors, Elon lied to those who saw it as a last ditch effort to beat their diseases.
Ah damn I didn't think of that. I feel for them, but elon is the last person they should trust for that. I don't honestly know who they should trust these days. But techbros aren't one of them.
As a general rule of thumb, you should trust that a tech bro will con you by taking a normal idea and throwing around a bunch techno jargon to make it seem like cutting edge technology.
Yup. You have to be a special kind of trusting to allow a company to modify your brain.
Banal attempts at mind control, crude as they are, are bad enough already.
Honestly, interface chips in our brains would be a logical step at some point in the future. But hell would need to freeze, then thaw, then freeze over again before I trust anything of elons being inserted in my brain.
It's the same people who think the covid vaccine puts a microchip in them. Go figure.
Let's not pretend Musk has fucking clue what's going on or the science behind it.
He isn't down in trenches making discoveries. That's just the image he presents.
He buys companies and lets the actually competent people do the work while claiming credit.
He's been doing it since PayPal.
He's not a genius, he just has enough money to get actual geniuses to work for him.
Someone put it well, if insensitively, about Sam Bankman Fried (FTX etc):
Not actually smart but just LARP-ing the “Aspy genius” persona.
However accurate that take is or offensive, I think it captures something about how nerd culture has gone mainstream and how it’s perceived.
'nerd' has disappeared as an insult now that we're all on the computer all the time
As The Boys lovingly put it so many years ago, "nerds is cool now and jocks is pumping our gas."
I think that's pretty romanticised.
Assuming they leave their home town many end up in sales or similar making really good money.
He buys companies and lets the actually competent people do the work while claiming credit.
Sometimes he actively interferes with those competent people too.
He buys companies and lets the actually competent people do the work while claiming credit.
No he doesn't. He meddles and interferes constantly and convinces himself that he's adding value by doing so. That's why Neuralink is dangerous. Meta or Alphabet or Microsoft or whoever can be trusted to let the scientists and the legal team ensure there's very little risk of everything blowing up in their face horribly. Elon's little empire is constantly on the verge of an absolute disaster. I would not be remotely surprised if Neuralink messes everything up so much that it sets back brain implants and BCI's in general by decades. Purely because Elon can't just supply the people at his businesses with the tools they need then get out of their way.
Remember that time Elon said he totally was not going to ban a single specific person when he bought Twitter and then turned around and did exactly that just a few days later?
@ajsadauskas @technology
I was astounded to read Neuralink is to be permitted to experiment on humans. Instead they should have any animal experiment licences revoked.
Headline:
TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPENED TO MONKEYS AFTER GETTING NEURALINK IMPLANTS, ACCORDING TO VETERINARY RECORDS
What are these terrible things?
Up to a dozen monkeys suffered grisly fates after receiving a Neuralink implant, including brain swelling and partial paralysis.
First is the case of the monkey "Animal 20." In December 2019, an internal part of the brain implant being inserted into the primate "broke off" during surgery. Later that night, the monkey scratched at the implant site, drawing blood, and yanked on the implant, partially dislodging it. Follow-up surgery discovered that the wound was infected, but that the placement of the implant prevented treatment. The monkey was euthanized the next month.
Before that, a female monkey designated "Animal 15" began to press her head against the ground after receiving the brain implant, pick at the site until it bled, and eventually lost coordination, shivering when personnel entered the room. Scientists discovered she had brain bleeding, and in March 2019, she too was euthanized.
The following year, a primate called "Animal 22" was put down in March 2020 after its brain implant became so loose that the screws attaching it to the skull "could easily be lifted out," according to a necropsy report.
"The failure of this implant can be considered purely mechanical and not exacerbated by infection," the necropsy states.
As Wired notes, that statement alone seemingly contradicts Musk's claims that no monkeys directly died from Neuralink brain implants.
And so would the account of an ex-Neuralink employee, who told Wired that Musk's claims that the monkeys were already terminally ill are "ridiculous," even a "straight-up fabrication."
"We had these monkeys for a year or so before any surgery was performed," the ex-employee said.
The testimony of an anonymous scientist conducting research at CNPRC seems to corroborate the ex-employee's allegations.
"These are pretty young monkeys," they told the magazine. "It's hard to imagine these monkeys, who were not adults, were terminal for some reason."
Not only are monkeys as intelligent as small kids. All monkey species are at least a thousand times as rare as humans.
These experiments sound like they've been done by people who don't know what they're doing?
Elon fanboys should be lining up to try this, right?
Yeah, the dumbest and worst people will be dying to get this. I don't see a problem
Which is why I'm totally okay with it being allowed. If you're stupid enough to get one then maybe we don't need you around anymore.
Whenever I see these Musk posts, I always think the title can usually be reduced to 3 or 4 words. In this case, "Elon shouldn't be trusted".
Whenever I see these Musk posts, I always marvel at how people seem to think one man builds spaceships, programs self-driving cars, pushes all the buttons on Twitter, and does all the research himself on monkeys.
'Elon CAN'T be trusted.'
I think Elmo should just volunteer himself.
I feel like this is all a given. How they're legally able to proceed with human testing is just baffling to me.
Elon is already dreaming up ways to blame his human test subjects for his failures after they die horrifically from infections, brain bleeds, seizures, and psychosis.
Rather than admit his crappy submarine wouldn't work after an expert diver told him, he called them a pedophile.
You'd be insane to listen to a guy who publicly refuses to listen to advice
Elon has a history of lying that's as rich as he was before he bought Twitter.
What's going on with all these @ tags
@ajsadauskas @technology I was just going to ask the Theranos/Holmes question.
Once he'll start losing investors' money his lies will catch up to him. Nobody's asking questions as long as line goes up.
He's a lying piece of shit. Full stop.
Chip Elon and put him through what he put the monkeys through. Same conditions.
Chip him and send him to Mars.
Make him drive to the launchpad in a Model X on full "auto pilot" too
I say let him do that and then let congress legislate this once the grim details of how the human subjects died creates a scandal and political unity across the aisle. It's the American Way®
I'm not keen on letting people die just to test how much that level of money can minimize consequences
@ajsadauskas @autolycos @technology Because he has the most money. Because any who should hold him accountable have their hand in his pocket. Because he has government contracts with every single one of his businesses. He is a monster created by those who are supposed to protect us from the monsters. It is not remotely possible to control him. He is the worst case scenario.
@ajsadauskas @technology
The only reason something happened to Deep Voice Barbie was because some Very Important People were publicly embarrassed by their association with, and gullibility of her.