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During negotiations with the DNC and the Harris campaign, we were repeatedly told by interlocutors that Harris couldn’t meet any of our basic requests (a policy shift from Biden, a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel, or even a meeting with Michigan families who lost loved ones to Israeli bombs) because of AIPAC-aligned politicians like Fetterman, who might take to TV, rile up suburban white and Jewish voters, and fracture the party’s coalition in a swing state.

That political calculus alienated a key voting bloc, although likely not large enough to have shifted the ultimate election outcomes, that should be part of a durable Democratic majority. But few will ever be held accountable for that choice.

A Fetterman staffer condemning Uncommitted for not advocating for Palestinians 'the right way' is like an arsonist scolding the fire department for using the wrong hose.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 hours ago

Imagine supporting genocide in order to win, but then losing anyway.

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the DNC’s ”strategy”—alienate everybody who isn’t a suburban wine mom or AIPAC donor. Brilliant. Why bother with Michigan families mourning Israeli airstrikes when you can pander to Fetterman’s Fox News cosplay?

Harris couldn’t even fake it. No Palestinian speaker, no policy shift, no spine. Just the same ”don’t rock the boat” calculus that’s sinking their coalition faster than a lead balloon in Lake Michigan.

Here’s the kicker: they’ll blame voters for staying home instead of owning their cowardice. Meanwhile, Uncommitted gets torched for not advocating ”the right way”—as if there’s a polite way to demand basic humanity. Spoiler: there isn’t.

Democrats didn’t just lose—they fumbled their soul.

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago

Harris campaign: why aren't you embracing our flavor of fascism, the flavor of warhawks like Cheney and genocide?

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Fetterman won his nomination when his brain was still functioning. If you don't like him, primary him. It would probably work.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The biggest group that stayed home after voting dem in 2020 were older white men/women and hispanic men

The protest votes were a non factor in comparison

The media blew this out of proportion to make leftists infight

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

"Leftists?" None of us are infighting as far as I know. Did you mean "Liberals?"

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

This post literally exists to make people mad at protesters who didn't effect the election in any way now that the data is out and we can LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.

But that doesn't matter here I guess, reality doesn't matter when there's straw men to seethe at

[–] Jentu@lemmy.ml 1 points 43 minutes ago

Liberals getting angry at leftist isn't infighting, it's just regular fighting.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Leftists are always infighting, but not about DNC ghouls

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

For the record, I've never seen anyone on Lemmy defend the DNC. We all know they screwed up. We also know that Trump is by far the greater evil.

I'm also angry that we now suffer the consequences and would have been delighted had Trump lost the election.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 hours ago

I have seen a lot of people blame "the voters" or people who didn't vote or whatever, and that is often to a degree which implicitly absolves the DNC for their role in alternating them. Can't really have it both ways.

[–] loudiamond@lemm.ee 13 points 12 hours ago

Just like on Reddit, they mostly shit on the voters, which is disgusting imo

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From a pure political science perspective, if the Democrats were a real party they would either purge themselves of Zionists or purge themselves of anti-Zionists. This coalition is objectively impossible to sustain and will make them lose any time Israel is bombing.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is starting to come out that the Democrats blatantly censored voter concerns for the genocide during the campaign. And lied about them not existing.

A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunteer or fundraising emails and people replied by asking about Gaza, they were told to mark it as “no response.” The result? They seldom ended up engaging with voters on that issue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/uncommitted-leaders-stand-2024-strategy-trump-floats-gaza-takeover-rcna190782

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 16 points 20 hours ago

i wish this information did more good; since the democrats are doing their damnedest to ignore it while the media is pretending it never happened.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

honestly disgusted by how meager and purely symbolic the demands made by the uncommitted movement were

as if getting every single thing on that list would have spared a single life

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All they demanded was basically a lip service and they didn't get even that

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They had a foolish belief in the humanity of their oppressors. That being asked to look their victims in the face would give them pause.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 20 hours ago

they've victims of the american empire; whoemever they vote for is going to lead to the same ends.

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