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[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This whole thing is extremely cringe. There isn’t any other way to put it. Trump. His executive order. The compliance. It’s all cringe.

[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Though to be fair cringe is like right in the very blood to Google anyway so what would you expect...

I mean, just look at how they often respond on their bug tracker platform of most of their products and how they try to justify their endless streams of questionable design decisions, that seems to be characteristic of them at this point lol

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.

Even if it never gets changed back, it'll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.

Hey conservatives, not that you're intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You eat your Freedom Fries and you like it

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 44 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I just tried it and found three dealbreakers instantly.

  1. It doesn't have my address (I know I could add it but who knows what else it's missing)

  2. It couldn't find any public transport routes in my area

  3. There is no satellite view

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn't even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] moakley@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That solves the problem this time, but it doesn't help if I'm trying to navigate somewhere new.

If it doesn't have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don't think it's a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Every time I try to navigate to an address that's missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It's not a big deal.
And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.

That's how OSM works. There isn't a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that's the only way it works.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You are in luck my friend: https://streetcomplete.app/

They have made it super easy and fun. I have been playing it for nearly a year and have made a pretty big dent in my local dense metro area.

[–] oxf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

This is actually incredible. Thanks for sharing!

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, I was following this thread and wanted to say the same thing

I've kept updating shops that change, new houses, parking, etc... it's great. I even used it on vacation (when the SO wasn't looking)

My global rank is #1554 and ~#130ish in my local country, but #12 in another country I barely visit, so it shows where more people should ~~complain less~~ support more.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Wow good work, my global ranking is #2449.

Ha, yeah it's good that you slowly clear out your local area because my SO did not appreciate me trying to answer questions while we walked.

[–] mocoma@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Found this thing yesterday. I've contributed to OSM more in a day than in the previous year. It's great.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
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The traffic conditions is huge tho

Just last week, that philly plane crash, I saw exactly where the roads are closed and which roads are congested.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Well. O. K. Then it's my not the 'USA" that did this anymore. It's to be called "North Mexico" now. Fair's fair.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.

The resolution is introducing "official_name" tags, referencing "en_us", because "en" is not just the U.S.:

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11

So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.

Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80

So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago (8 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago

It’s a massive upgrade in terms of aesthetics and privacy!

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[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's a weird flex by South Canada.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 84 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What a bunch of cucks! The billionaires have fully taken over!

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Also, report an error to google maps:

It reads: I read "Gulf of America". That must be a mistake.

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The change reflects Google's policy of adhering to official government names for geographical locations.

OK, so why am I seeing Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) from Canada?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Same here in Europe.

This is highly irregular for several reasons:

Google adheres to official government positions, yes, but as far as I'm aware the American government hasn't made the name change official yet. Members of the government have said that they'd do this, but I don't think this idea has passed any process yet. So then why is Google "updated" their maps?

When Google adheres to official government positions, they are local. In example, when you're in China and look up Taiwan, it'll appear as part of China. In other countries it'll appear as either an independent country or a disputed territory, depending on that government's official position on the matter. What we DON'T see is something like "Taiwan (China)", as Google supposedly has no intention on forcing the policies of one government upon another government, and as far as I'm aware the rest of the world hasn't agreed to changing The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America.

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[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 2 days ago

What's that sucking sound?

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What the fuck is this shit?

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[–] mrmule@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm currently in France, this is what I see on Google maps Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

What a f*cking joke 😂

Maps.me shows the real name

As does mappy.cz

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Had to check.

Slowly working towards a viable OpenStreetMap in my area. If you want to help, you can make a free account and begin editing: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new

You can also contribute on mobile by using Street Complete or any number of great mobile apps that allow limited editing and full map features like Organic Maps

Edit: I didn't know about Vespucci, which is a full-featured OSM editor for Android. Thanks, @onyxjet@lemmy.world

Also be sure to check out !open_street_maps@lemmy.world

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[–] mRbLUE@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just tried: the 'report an issue'/'suggest an edit' button doesn't appear when The Gulf of Mexico is selected.

It does for other locations, but not for the Gulf.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Report an issue through the base report feature

Open maps > your profile picture > last option on the list

You can directly reference and include a screenshot of the map

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

It's because people already Mass reported it so they disabled the ability for it

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Huh, do they really change names of international things when only one party says so?

Denali/McKinely is one thing, it's part of the US. But the Gulf of Mexico is a mix of US, Mexico, Cuba, and international waters. I wonder what they show Google Maps users who are in Mexico.

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[–] afronaut@lemmy.cafe 12 points 2 days ago

I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 days ago

Apple Maps currently shows it as Gulf of Mexico, fwiw.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Cool.

In not at all related news disabling Google maps on your Android device can often be a source of delight! I never knew how capable organic maps was and it has a very nice auto integration.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Genuinely curious... How does Google handle other oceanic naming that isn't agreed upon Worldwide?

Google Maps view of the Southern Ocean around Antarctica

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Generally, Google shows the appropriate name based upon where you are located. So for everyone outside of 'murica, it's still the Gulf of Mexico.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They said that but it’s a fat lie.

They did say both names, but this is a complete cop out.

[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Send a complaint through the site. Flood them with complaints about how they are an evil corporation licking Trump's boot and that it's the Gulf of Mexico.

Don't let these damn corporations win.

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