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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 112 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It's kinda a weird take? Like if I'm in a discussion about some scary things AfD are doing and a left-of-center German joins the conversation, I'd like to think I'd have the ability to...you know...hear what they have to say about things.

There are a bunch of Americans who asked for this; there are a bunch who stood by and did nothing to stop it; and there are a bunch who tried to stop it, did not, and are devastated.

I guess at the end of the day it's just a meme.

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[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 90 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Iβ€˜m german and I watch in real time how a fascist Gouvernement is taking over the US.

Sometimes I feel like I take crazy pills, when a friend of mine assures me that Donald Trump is just a business man who wants to help the country. Or when a good friend of mine who I considered sane and intelligent until this moment sends me a link to a J. D. Vance interview and tells me what a very smart guy this is.

It’s infuriating. And lonely. I think every American against this should be allowed to speak openly and participate. We have to work together, or we have lost already.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can assure you that it’s the people you are talking to that take the crazy pills on the regular.

Thanks mate!

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You may be, but clearly more than half of you are not πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Have you checked the voter turnout? Because I didn't but it's traditionally low in the US for different reasons. And this doesn't take into account people not allowed to vote. I don't live in a utopia either but the US is especially undemocratic by design

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[–] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Trump didn't even get half of votes, much less half of the population. The vast majority of Americans aren't Trump supporters. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans don't vote.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I consider those who didn't vote to be just as bad as Trump supporter

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"What do you mean, I can't fix this by posting on social media? Stop oppressing me 😒😒😒"

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

I posted it all over X, why isn't it working?!

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (12 children)

What is it you are suggesting exactly?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Look at countries that have successfully enacted change when they are angry with their government: Serbia currently, France whenever pensions are threatened, the Maidan Revolution, the Arab Spring (for what that was worth). What do they all have in common? Hint: it isn't posting from the comfort of your couch.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Well, I'm not looking forward to the German elections next week either. #notallgermans #fckafd

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm willing to consider California becoming the 11th province. We're gonna make these GAFAM pay for all these years of manipulation and rename the US to Naziland.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (8 children)

New England would almost entirely very much like to become the southern-most Canadian province.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, California is too right-wing and populous, it'd overwhelm Canada's Canadianness.

I think we should take Alaska, it always made more sense as a Canadian territory.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you think California is too right wing, but Alaska isn't?

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

See the responses to your post on !yurop@lemm.ee, I can't be bothered copying them here

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Americans whining about wanting to leave the country and take refuge in Canada

for what, so you can squat here and continue to do nothing while your country becomes a Fascist and Imperialist Oligarchy?

No. Maybe we can talk after the Civil war starts when your country invades ours. But for now, this is your problem to deal with.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So...we don't want allies before they invade us, only after. Got it.

There are a few people in America who agree with your stance on refugees.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

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Civil war starts when your country invades ours

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Ohhh, when the USA erupts in civil war AFTER they invade us. I initially thought that you were saying America invading us would be civil war

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine telling Jews in the Holocaust their opinions and thoughts don't matter because Hitler was elected.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

That's not what's happening. People weighing in on the political situation, airing their concerns, or trying to highlight issues that aren't being reported on aren't the ones being called out here. It's the "but I'm one of the good ones" comments that have been peppered into every discussion on non-US-centric communities.

Whether you're one of the good ones or not is immaterial. It's contributing nothing. It's just people trying to make the discussion about them.

What is it you are saying those people should have done/should be doing?

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 week ago

So there were no German Jews in the 1930s? You don't think they voted? Or are you saying since they weren't successful in defeating the NSDAPT in the elections they weren't good? Seems like you are being disingenuous and letting propaganda to support a narrative.

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