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I thought I had finally found a healthy drink I liked with no artificial sweetness and they had to go and fuck it up

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[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (13 children)

Stevia is not artificial you silly duck. And it's more sustainable to grow than the fucking sugar you hypocritically enjoy every day. Get over it.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Stevia is not artificial you silly duck.

Not to mention that while it's OP's money, at least in the US, natural and artificial sweeteners (or flavors) can be chemically-identical. I remember a bit...might have been from NPR Planet Money...on a substance that literally could be obtained either way, but some people thought that artificial flavors were bad, so there was a market for companies to go out and (more-expensively) extract the thing so that they could make the food they made say "natural flavor" rather than "artificial flavor". The designation is just a function of whether you synthesize or extract the thing, the manufacturing process. It doesn't say anything about the actual content.

EDIT: Not the article I was thinking of, but same idea:

https://health.wusf.usf.edu/npr-health/2017-11-03/is-natural-flavor-healthier-than-artificial-flavor

All three experts say that ultimately, natural and artificial flavors are not that different. While chemists make natural flavors by extracting chemicals from natural ingredients, artificial flavors are made by creating the same chemicals synthetically.

Platkin says the reason companies bother to use natural flavors rather than artificial flavors is simple: marketing.

"Many of these products have health halos, and that's what concerns me typically," says Platkin. Consumers may believe products with natural flavors are healthier, though they're nutritionally no different from those with artificial flavors.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, having a pre-chilled and conveniently-available product can be nice when you're away from home, but if this is for at home, have you ever considered just, you know, making a pitcher of your own drink with whatever you want? Maybe take a Thermos of the stuff chilled or iced if you're on the go? I mean, if you want agave as your sweetener, then you can make a drink with just agave and then tweak it to however you want. Food-grade citric acid is a preservative -- I have a bottle in the pantry. You can purchase all sorts of flavors.

Like, if you buy a premade good, then you can benefit from the R&D done by the company, but if you have extremely exacting demands that you feel no company is making, you can rage about it or just make what you want. In general, drinks have an enormous markup -- I mean, you're mostly buying water with a little flavoring and coloring -- so you can have exactly what you want and it'll probably be cheaper, too.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (14 children)

This label part about plastics is what's called green-washing here, and is illegal unless what they are doing is a very signifikant part of the price of the product.
The labeling of what's NOT in the drink is also under similar regulation, but I don't recall what it's called. But the fact that a "sugar" drink doesn't contain fat is irrelevant and misleading.

Whatever country this is from has bullshit regulation.
The thing that is ABSOLUTELY NOT a problem is the Stevia which is clearly labeled!

So the "mildly infuriating" part is completely misguided compared to the real problems of that product.

Edit:

Just noticed, Carbs 3%, sugar 6% incl. added sugar 12%.
That's impossible! You can't have less carbs than sugar, since sugar is a carb. So these labels are probably illegal in EU on no less than 3 counts!!

[–] Thatoneguy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Whatever country this is from has bullshit regulation.

I'll give you one guess....

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Flavored Liquid Death tastes like absolute ass to begin with. It's like unsweetened/lightly sweetened drinks targeted at Monster drinkers

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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