God damn I'd forgotten about Plymouth
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Is it possible to learn this power?
- Is the current SystemD rant derived from years ago (while they’ve improved a lot)?
No it's almost always been derived from people's behinds.
- Should Linux community rant about bigger problems such as Wayland related things not ready for current needs of normies?
Yes.
Systemd is spectacular in many ways. Every modern OS has a process management system that can handle dependencies, schedule, manage restarts via policy and a lot more. Systemd is pretty sophisticated on that front. I've been able to get it to manage countless services in many environments with great success and few lines of code.
Why do people keep insisting on capitalizing it wrong? It's systemd, all lowercase. Never has it been Systemd, and never has it been SystemD.
I can't like it bc its complicated.
I am on Guix works great with shepherd.
Boot times aren't really an issue and not really relevant to good vs bad. You should be able to rice each one for speed on your particular use case if you really want to.
Be wary of anything you get from RedHat. I use their stuff sometimes but ensure I can happily live without gnome, systemd, pipewire, wayland or whatever else they are generously gifting to us freeloaders.
Not against systemd (although it’s bad and needs replacing), just against pottering.
- systemd hasn't become a better project built by better, smarter people to deliver a better set of features. It's still hot garbage.
- it's okay to continue pointing out it's hot garbage, in the hopes we can go forward or back or just get on something better/else (same thing).
The problem of systemd is that it hasn't been just a replacement of init as they initially claimed, and now deny they ever did. Things like Mono, Gnome and systemd are bad for the ecosystem long term.
An init done by constructive people wouldn't be a problem at all.
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It's spyware
It would be fine if it kept to system init rather than growing like a cancerous tumor.