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Especially for the less tech-savvy among us?

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[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think that SimpleX is more innovative and ground-breaking than Session.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Use separate profile for different devices. Make a group when you chat with others.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Grr! Ok, but damned if I could get that to work! It seems like you can't use the desktop and mobile client at the same time! You have to scan a QR code to switch between them! And it has issues with firewalls and VPNs! Old and clueless here, maybe part of the problem. 🙁

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

I just have two identical but independent profiles. They also double as my remote copypaste buffer.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No issues with fireballs and VPNs for me.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I didn't have an issue with fireballs either, thankfully, because I made my saving throws before they got to me.🔥😉

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes SimpleX isn't mature from a UX perspective and that is due to it's innovative approach. If you need to have device sync and don't want Signal, Session could be a better optioon to you.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Am I right tho about having to scan QR codes to go back and forth between desktop and mobile on SimpleX, or am I just 😵‍💫?

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I don't use SimpleX on my computers

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Briar doesn't even use a central server, all connections go through tor

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[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's nothing about Signal that requires savvines.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They probably meant tech-savviness compared to other Signal alternatives.

Although even then XMPP with modern clients is simple enough for my mom to use, so I don't entirely buy the "complication" argument either.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

is simple enough for my mom to use

The bar is so low. I just had to visit somebody today to help them fix their computer. There was dirt on the fingerprint reader, and they forgot their password. I told them their password was their user name. I.e. hunter / hunter and it didn't work.... (I chose this because of their modest tech experience)

They were using hunter / Hunter instead.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

Idk, I meant my personal experience. She doesn't see much difference between ease of use of her XMPP client compared to, say, Whatsapp.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The main turnoff for me is that it is essentially impossible to selfhost - you use random nodes from the network, and to host such a node, you have to lock up a whole fortune (last time I looked I remember it being around $1500, might've changed) in their own cryptocurrency. They do promise returns, but I am skeptical - where would they take so much money to guarantee compensation for everyone within a sane amount of time? They claim it is against a Sybil attack, but it seems to me that it would be a lot easier for a government/company to have more nodes in a situation when "competition" is reduced like this.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Selfhosting is kind of hard and labor intensive for some of us; had a lot of trouble trying to set up NextCloud on my QNAP (if that counts as selfhosting), and finally gave up.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

Fair - I was referring to the fact that here it isn't even an option.

Also, XMPP or Simplex are very easy to set up, Nextcloud is indeed more complicated.

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