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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 82 points 1 day ago (3 children)

macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.

But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I'd understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It's not hard to see why they might've thought it's Linux based.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 47 points 1 day ago

I think 10% of people believe nearly anything. It's basically the rounding error for a survey.

Honestly, if you had asked me 10 minutes ago "Is MacOS based on Linux?" I would have gotten it wrong. But if you asked "Is MacOS based on UNIX or Linux?" I would have gotten it right.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isnt zsh the default macos shell?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It has been since 2019 but before that it was bash.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They switched to bash in 2003 with Mac OS X 10.3; before that it was tcsh.

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[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It is now, but it was bash before.

But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced you’ll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.

[–] False@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's always fun to find out that a standard looking util on osx actually requires weird args and syntax.

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[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago
[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wish it was then it may make sense. Every time I use the MacOS terminal. It's like an uncanny valley so similar but the more you look the more horrific it becomes. I can't even say it's Unix is the problem as freebsd makes complete sense.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
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[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Thanks for the response. I'm ignorant in this topic. How is MacOS horrific?

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I mean it's kind of like the "humans evolved from monkeys" or whatever primate you want to substitute for monkey. No, they branched off from a common ancestor though.

I mean lots of people get mixed up between BSD, Linux, UNIX, and all the variations over the years. Is MacOS a version of Linux? No. Is a human a type of ape? No. Are MacOS and Linux way, way closer than either are to Windows, hell yes. Just like people are way closer to being monkeys than swallows. There's a lot of mixed breeding in both examples and a lot of total incompatibilities as well.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

12% of humans believe we aren’t apes

Edit: hopeful the number is actually this low

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pft, everyone knows macOS is just a fancy DE on top of Hannah Montana Linux

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 6 points 1 day ago

It'd help if Lunduke were to explain the true origin of those things like Ada Lovelace and programming, and Grace Hopper and the moth. And what predated that.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

12% of people believed JFK was going to be resurrected a year ago or some dumb shit. The point is, more than 1/4 of the population are not smart.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 17 points 1 day ago

I get that it specifies tech workers, but still my first reaction was that 12% is pretty low. You can find a much higher percentage of people who are confidently wrong about way more important things.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago

Most people think UNIX and Linux are the same thing so this makes sense. Obviously to us they aren’t but for most people it really doesn’t matter. I’m sure they’ll still sleep at night.

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