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Hashtags do not replace groups.

No one moderates them. They’re easy to hijack and spam. And there’s simply no permanence to them.

Which is why, if you actually want to discuss something, it’s better to tag a group. For example, if you want to be part of an actual PC gaming community on the Fediverse, it’s better to tag @pcgaming@lemmy.ca than #pcgaming.

This needs to be common knowledge because people new to the Fediverse do not know about groups. Hell, I’d say people who have had Mastodon accounts for years still don’t know. And that’s a shame.

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I really hope there's better handling of Mastodon user comments on Lemmy, because all the comments tagging other users are an absolute mess. Are Mastodon users doing this on purpose or is their client tagging the users automatically?

If this were to become more common I'd probably just think about find out a way to block Mastodon users so I don't see their comments.

[–] tofuwabohu@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago

In Mastodon you need to mention the person you reply to or they won't get mentioned. Clients usually set them automatically.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 5 points 6 days ago

Also hashtags don't help federation at all, groups/communities will "boost" the post so it federates to all the followers

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org I think mastodon should implement a post-to-community type thing like mbin has for microblog posts. It (and all other fedi. platforms, really) also needs like a tutorial or smth to show how to actually use the federation features of the platform.

[–] atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

@unknown1234_5@kbin.earth @pcgaming@lemmy.ca @fediverse@lemmy.world Already on the road map.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 1 points 5 days ago

@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org sick

@pcgaming@lemmy.ca @fediverse@lemmy.world

[–] LibertyForward1@beige.party 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

@atomicpoet @fediverse Wait.. is *that* how it works to follow a lemmy .. whatever the equivalent is of a subreddit .. group? anyway, you just follow @groupname@instancename? How did I not understand this before?

[–] atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

@LibertyForward1 @fediverse Not only can you follow, you can post to a Lemmy community from Mastodon by mentioning the Lemmy community. In fact, you just mentioned a Lemmy community, so your using Lemmy right now—but from you’re perspective, it looks like Mastodon.

[–] LibertyForward1@beige.party 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] TisI@reddthat.com 4 points 6 days ago

Hello from Lemmy, I can see you. Can you see me?

[–] Mel@lemmy.melissandre.dev 3 points 6 days ago

New lemmy's instance here. Hello.
I come on your topic to test. Might as well enjoy of your topic.

[–] geogeogeo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

This is what I see from Lemmy.world

[–] alsternerd@social.alster.space 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

@atomicpoet
Also it whould be neat to somehow see from the handle itself if it's a group or not. It's the case with the classic å.gup.pe, but I can't derive that from lemmy.ca without having to look it up.

I also find it father difficult to find groups, because the default ActivityPub-Search doesn't work that way and groups are just special users.
That's why I like a.gup.pe, it sounds a bit like Gruppe in german. Which doesn't help internationally, something like gro.up oder a subdomain including group whould be helpful and make the seqrch for groups easier, because then it's part of the name.

@fediverse

[–] mapto@masto.bg 2 points 6 days ago (4 children)
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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does it show up in Lemmy if someone on Mastodon tags a Lemmy instance? Just curious.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

it's a new post in the community

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So if there's 50,000 users in a conversation and they all keep "tagging" the community instead of a hashtag, then that community would have thousands of new posts?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zagorath@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why yikes? The scenario you described is literally the same as 50,000 users signing up to Lemmy to post in a Lemmy Community.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In that scenario there would be one post with everyone commenting on it. What I think we're saying here is that it would create a new post every time a mastodon user would "join t conversation" by tagging the community.

[–] Zagorath@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

Oh right. No, it doesn't work that way in my experience. I've seen Mastodon users post to Lemmy Communities by @ mentioning them, and Mastodon users replying to posts. It often looks weird because replies have an @ mention (or multiple, in the case of replies to replies), but everything shows up in Lemmy how you'd want it to.

I'm assuming replies to the post would be replies in Lemmy?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

+1, I absolutely loathe the twitter model of discussion because it's a huge mess of out of order replies and random spam. Individual discussion posts with tree threaded comments are way, way, way more effective at keeping discussion relevant and directed. Also +1 re: moderation, social media functions best with effective, vigorous, moderation and the twitter model just sucks there.

[–] maruno@bark.lgbt 1 points 6 days ago

@atomicpoet I had found this in the beginning, used it for a few days and unfollowed everything in frustration. At least in Mastodon it is way, way too spammy as you get every single reply. I don't really get why you would want this, hashtags make more sense for the microblogging idea to me and once I knew you could follow them instead things got a lot better for me here.

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