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Which browser do you use and why? (lemmy.selfhostcat.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) by ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

Using firefox but concerned now

Read about some alternatives:

Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

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[–] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Firefox with Arkenfox. I'm not going to help the Chromium monopoly. The changes suck, but oh the hell well.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a Firefox user and I'm not really that bothered about this tos changes. If they do mess things up I'll probably just switch to some fork that doesn't do the fuckery.

Wouldn't be surprised if Mint packages Firefox with it (whatever "it" is) disabled, since they build Thunderbird without telemetry.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Practical response.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox. Equally concerned as well.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Looking into Librewolf and Waterfox now!

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[–] SunDevil@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

While I'm not sure dropping Firefox is necessary at this juncture, I've had a good experience using LibreFox. Hearing a lot about Zen, though.

Check out Mozilla's clarification: https://www.ghacks.net/2025/02/27/mozillas-new-terms-of-use-causes-confusion-among-firefox-users/

[–] LettucePrey@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

I think this diff makes it pretty clear its time to run, not walk: https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/114078708183574404

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 22 hours ago (37 children)

I use Firefox. I don't like the changes but I don't want to use any downstream browsers and I don't think any of the not-downstream alternatives do better.

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[–] Vahenir@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Myself i run "Firedragon" which is a fork of floorp. As for why its mostly because it came with the distro i run (garuda linux) and it works nicely so i didnt really feel i had to swap it.

[–] fishsayhelo@lemmy.ml 9 points 22 hours ago

librewolf for a while now. can reccomend 👍🏿

[–] enemenemu@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Mostly fennec (firefox) on android but there are concerning news every half year about firefox. No idea how long I can withstand.

Vanadium is my alternative but it has no (good) browser tab overview (list instead of huge squares). And bottom navigation is sub par as well. Brave would be better in that regard but vanadium is rock solid.

As soon as firefox drops ublock, I'm out. For me, that day is still far away, but I guess it's inevitable. You can't trust firefox not chaning their path anymore. :'( .

[–] xmanmonk@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Recent news about Firefox finally got me to go with LibreWolf.

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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

There was some sort of bullshit going on in like 2003 with Internet Explorer so my dad switched us to Firefox, I’ve been on it since. Never felt the need to go to Chrome when it cane around.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Zen for regular activities (I pin all important services), Firefox for browsing for something else.

GNU IceCat is also amazing as concept, but generally unusable since it ends up blocking too much and manually allowing everything is a hassle. But still, the pages that work are clean, and I love that by default the browser doesn't do anything without your permission - it doesn't even connect to update and telemetry services, it has 0 connections on startup, unlike almost anything (qutebrowser does the same, but, unless you are a strong Vim fanboy, you won't like the experience).

[–] arsCynic@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Zen as main driver because of its features that are on par with Chromium-based Vivaldi browser, and LibreWolf on "older" machines or systems that require stability/consistency. Both are awesome to me. On Android plain Firefox remains pleasant to use, but open to suggestions.

[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I use Mullvad Browser. It's maintained in coordination with the Tor Project, and is essentially the Tor Browser with Tor itself stripped out. Same browser fingerprinting protections, however, among other things.

EDIT: I'd like to clarify that this has nothing to do with my trust in Mozilla or Firefox itself, especially not concerning recent panics about benign changes. I still use Firefox on the side, it just does not have fingerprinting protections by default, and hardening it manually leads to minor differences between user configurations (even with Arkenfox if that's still around) that is solved by Mullvad Browser for me. I use Mullvad Browser for my main browsing, and Firefox for specific exceptions. Firefox itself is fine, and no, Mozilla is not burning it to the ground.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

This is my lead contender now that Firefox is shitting the bed. Any downsides?

[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

Well, the hardening, just as with Tor Browser, does break some sites. It comes preinstalled with NoScript and uBlock Origin, the former of which you will either have to learn how to use or disable, depending on your wants for privacy. While it doesn't include some of the anti-features of base Firefox, it is still based on Firefox so it will have similar performance for similar tasks.

Personally, I use Mullvad for most of my browsing, and Firefox for a few specific things (like staying logged into site long-term and such).

It's available as a flatpak via Flathub for an easy installation, otherwise you can check https://mullvad.net/en/browser/linux for distro-specific installation instructions.

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[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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