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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 45 points 15 hours ago

The Democratic Party on the whole is captured by the donor class as a direct result of Citizens United. This has led to the hollowing out of the grassroots movements that are necessary for a large coalition of diverse interests to compete against the oligarchic cabal that makes up the GOP. This decimated the rank and file operatives that used networking within their communities to create political action and replaced it with endless fundraising emails, even as the primary process was corrupted (Hillary v Bernie, Biden v Bernie) to remove clout from the progressive wing of the party.

This led to the disillusionment of many Democratic voters that they have any say in the nomination process (the last time we had a real primary was Obama 2008 - almost 20 years ago), and the result is a slate of weak centrist candidates that for the most part play lip service to liberal cultural issues while blocking any real progressive economic progress.

The purpose of the Democratic Party apparatus as it exists in 2025 America is to capture and dilute revolutionary energy, so that people don't take to the streets and demand real change. Yes, there are some independents and good folks within the Democratic Party trying to make a change (AOC, Jasmine Crocket) but the power players (Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries) are still refusing to stand up to the overt fascist takeover of our country.

The system as it exists will not change, and without change, we're barreling into a fascism induced depression and possible civil war that will likely ravage the planet.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago (21 children)

You would think committing a genocide would’ve settled the whole “lesser evil” thing, but the Blue MAGA cult insists there’s a way to commit lesser evil genocide now.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 35 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

Obama and Biden said they'd legalize weed. They didn't. They failed to put abortion rights into the constitution. I mean I can go on these are just off the top of my head.

They are not immune to legit criticism, however it seems like people get the idea that if you criticize democrats that means you are a die hard Trumper or something...

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Didn’t close gitmo. Didn’t end the war on terror. Created the same border camps democrats cry at the gates of for political points. Bailed out the perpetrators of one of this countries most high profile and damaging financial crimes because they held rich peoples stock portfolios hostage. Made pointless concessions on the ACA to republicans who never once cross the isle for even the things they want to pass because they’d rather take the credit themselves.

Those are the ones I’m pulling off the top of my head.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Back up. Put abortion rights in the constitution? I cant take you seriously.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

I'll do you one better, I can't stand either party

I just especially dislike Republicans right now because they're in power

[–] whoxtank28@lemmy.world 57 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (25 children)

Democrats suck and are ineffectual at accomplishing their (generally decent) goals.

Republicans are trying to turn the US into a dicatorship. I hope this was a hyperbolic statement, but it seems like this is where we are now.

Why can't we be critical of democrats by being selective in the primaries? I think that a protest vote for an independent candidate, especially if you were in a swing state, has proven to have been a very poor choice.

Edit: To add to my initial point, I think that we are seeing a lot of post-hoc rationalization from non-voters and protest voters.

You would have to be crazy to prefer the outcome that we got over having Kamala, and if you contributed to our current situation, fuck you.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 27 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Their generally decent goals of bombing children in Afghanistan, bombing people in Palestine, starving children in Yemen, starving children in Cuba, starving children in Venezuela, caging children in the US, torturing people in Guantanamo, bombing children in Yugoslavia, and so on? The bill that resulted in the mass enslavement of the US population (highest prison pop. in the world by far) was passed by the Clinton administration, written by Biden.

Are they only powerful enough to do monstrous shit or do they think you're stupid and will buy their hand wringing? They could have forced through Medicare, deliberately chose not to. They could have codified reproduction rights, deliberately chose not to. They're fucking telling you which issues they care about, it's the ones that they actually pass.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 53 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why can't we be critical of democrats by being selective in the primaries?

Because half the time they don’t have primaries and the other half they call anyone making good arguments “unelectable radicals”

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 28 points 16 hours ago

Don't just "call them", they actively sabotage them in a way they never do with a reactionary. Labor did it to Corbyn as well, this is deeply ingrained in bourgeois "democracies", if you can vote for somebody who will try to bring change, they've already fucked up a bunch of times.

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