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[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

It's a symptom of our two-party voting system. I lost faith in the Democratic party's ability to do anything effectual a long fuckin time ago, the game is rigged for the rich and it will be until we wipe them from the face of the earth.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Nah. Both parties suck. Repubs damage, Dems half ass do damage control, then sit around making minor changes and act like they're saviors. The geriatric fucks that hold seats have no semblance of understanding the current world and so we fall behind the curve further every year. Easy things that are obvious never get passed because those get bribed. Sick of the whole system obviously.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Democrats don't do damage control, they actively build the machinery for the next republican to be even more brutal.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They got so heated about pro Palestinian stuff on TikTok that they handed Donald Trump authority to ban any website he feels like by executive fiat. Then TikTok didn’t get banned and Trump got for credit for saving it.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 24 points 20 hours ago

Republicans are the problem. Democrats are pretending to be the solution but are also the problem.

The reason Democrats deserve more hate is because they divert people from organising a solution to the problem. At least Republicans are honest about how much they suck.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

For sure, about %90 of them voted No to Sander's stop weapon sale to Israel resolution. They are worthless pieces of shits which would switch to the republican party at the blink of an eye had they thought their position in the Democrat party was insecure.

If I thought that the democrat party was the only viable option to defeat Trump would I vote for democrats instead of say, voting a third party? Without a second of doubt, yes. We don't even need to debate whether the Democrat party is marginally better than the Republican party or not. The main important difference is that if Trump wins (which he did) half of the country is going to cheer for every vile shit he does (which they do) and this will enable them to carry this vile shit into their personal lives (which they also do).

On the other hand if Kamala were to do such vile shit (granted there is imo %0 chance she could be this worse on almost all matters) at least she would get booed by the people who voted for her. There is a very big difference between how much these reactions enable a president to do even more extreme shit or not and whether if people are encouraged to replicate such behaviour on a local level or not.

So instead of waiting until the last 90 days and then suddenly going "DON'T VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS LETS CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY WOHOO", start working from now to make the third options more viable. Then it will be more sincere and useful.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What dem supporters need to understand is that support for Trump for many is people sticking two fingers up at the neoliberal order. All this talk of "woke" or whatever would all evaporate if people thought they were getting a fair shake. Of course it's a bloody stupid way of protesting this like so as it's basically asking the foxes to fix the hen house.

The key point is the neoliberal order hasn't been successful by capitalist standards. GDP growth in western countries from 1985-2015 was slower than the 1955-1984 period which preceded neoliberal policies taking hold.

So what you ended up with was a system which actually slowed growth, removed welfare in a lot of cases, made housing unaffordable and really only seems to have succeeded in funnelling money into the hands of the 0.1%.

People have been convinced all kinds of scapegoats and whatever are to blame, but it's pretty clear that they see mainstream politicians, as most embodied by the Dems, as the face of their issues.

The lack of self-reflection on the part of mainstream Dems is a huge, serious issue which has basically given Trump and Musk a blank cheque to implement fascism or at least very authoritarian capitalism.

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[–] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago

It’s been 8 years of the lesser evil with Democrats and I’m sick of them. I cannot in good conscience support them any longer because they have time and again chosen to maintain the status quo.

The Biden administration did many things to help Americans, most notably the Inflation Reduction Act and the student debt forgiveness. But most of it is being dismantled by the current administration. And the Dems knew this would be the case. Yet they chose to go the executive order route or the highly diluted down IRA. It’s not the people’s problem that you cannot get your party members in line. Why would we vote for you if you cannot deliver?

Nancy Pelosi chose not to even allow the bill to prevent members of Congress from insider trading. Republicans are using it to line their pockets like never before. You want to have your cake and eat it too. Well the people are sick of your hypocrisy and it showed in the elections.

It’s been more than a month of rapid fire gutting of the US government. What has the party done as the main opposition besides “coming up with a strategy”? Because it’s impossible to do anything meaningful without revealing how much you have gained from the system.

The Democrats who truly care about change need to spin off their own party. That’s the only way enough people will be mobilized to make a meaningful difference in the next elections.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 25 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Liberals think Democrats aren't half to blame for this shitty country being the way it is.

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[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's an unfortunate trait of the reddit migrations. That place was crawling with die-hard liberals, not entirely dissimilar to scabies. It stands to reason a few of the uninitiated would find their way here.

In spite of how I started this comment, we must remember that they are of the working class, and further division is a benefit exclusive to the capitalist.

I feel that the further we sink into full-blown fascism, the more of them will become aware, and may be counted among allies one day soon.

I plan to speak to those who are willing to listen and learn. But beware the contentious fool, ever seeking a debate but never trying for understanding.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

.world got the liberals that were too delusional for reddit.

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[–] MyDogLovesMe@sh.itjust.works 18 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

Looook,

We are ALL going to Hell, FAST (choose your doom(CC,WWIII,etc).

We are all in the same car, here -like it, or not.

One party, …I’ll let you guess which 😉, has the accelerator pinned to the mat. “We’ll be there in 5 minutes, Boys!! HELL ON EARTH HERE WE COME!”

The other party, is simply driving at half that speed. Results are the same. They are flawed. But they CAN slow the car to give us a bit more time to “brace for impact”. But they too bought into Hell as a destination.

But ya, we’re ALL fucked no matter how much you pledge to one party or the other. One party just whispers in your ear and it’s a bit more gentle while they fuck your already ragged ass.

The other party just dry-humps you violently until your blood provides enough lube for them to finish while pounding their chest as you lie there, bleeding out of your ass on the nice, clean sheets.

That about sums it up from my perspective.

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