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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

Always mildly annoyed by this type of meme.

First and foremost: Gotham is fucked. Like... really fucked. Evil secret societies run the place, the water supply is very likely poisoned in various ways, both conventionally and naturally, there's ancient evils buried under the city that have been corrupting it for centuries, a portal to hell in the asylum. We can say "Oh surely a food bank would help" and Wayne absolutely does do that via foundations in both of his parents names.... but all the shit to erase systemic poverty in the world can exist and The Joker, Zsasz, Mr. Pyg, The Court of Owls, Solomon Grundy, and the like are still going to be doing their shit (Not to mention big alien threats like Darkseid.). Likely most of his villains would still be on their grind except maybe Mr. Freeze who actually could have his problems solved by money.

Secondly: You gotta suspend disbelief. Make Superman a transitional power source and no one is gonna read it anymore, even if it would be 'realistic'. Any number of heroes could readily solve a number of the worlds issues. Why doesn't Iron Man put Arc reactors everywhere to power the world on clean energy? How come Storm doesn't get rid of every hurricane before it starts? Why doesn't Ice Man freeze up the poles and cool the planet down? The Flash could instantly deliver supplies to places in need. It's realistic, but it's boring, and boring doesn't sell comics. Okay, maybe Ruins but that couldn't be like... a whole series.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Isn’t the genie in the original story a trickster?

The genie will probably make everyone poor when Aladdin wishes for more equality.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If they start making kids shows have revolutionary heroes, it would be too "woke" and get banned.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Changing the skin colour is enough "woke" to get banned. If kids shows have revolutionary heroes they'd drop bombs from helicopters on their studio like they did to people in Philadelphia all the way back in the distant memories of 1985.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As a Philadelphian... I just wanted to say...

hears Helicopter sounds

Noooo they traced my IP and found my Lemmy account 😱 I'm gonna di

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Duck... and coverrrr! 🎶

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

So I'm playing Arkham Asylum and, like, the very beginning of the game you open some doors and shut down electrically powered things by just blowing up the connected panel with a batarang, but then later on you need another tool that blows them up via some kind of frequency overload. If I am still just blowing up the box, why can't I hit it with something or even use my actual explosives? Taking the "bat logic" to game mechanics too. lol

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

A sticky Batarang with juicy C4 filling would make sense and keep the theme

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I am pretty sure that's even another tool later on. I've seen plenty of walls you can blow up, but positioned in a way you'd have to throw/shoot something that I do not yet have.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Oh man. Can't wait to find out what it is now. 🤣

(Don't tell me; I'll get there.)

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 18 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

In the recent movies, he, or the Wayne foundation, does give a lot of money to charities in the city, and built the monorail system as well.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought his parents built/funded the monorail?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

he, or the Wayne foundation,

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fair, but riding on the accomplishments of your parents is pretty nepobaby...

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

It was also canon that Wayne foundation funded the orphanage in Gotham.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

A fucking monorail is some Musk type bullshit.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

The comic writers aren't researching the technical details. The important part is is that they built public transit.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

I hear those things are awfully loud.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

I mean, it's essentially just the metro... but above ground. Except that above ground location is out of the way of existing ground-layer infrastructure like sidewalks and roads.

In essence, it's just the benefits of a metro line with the added benefit of taking up less space from existing areas that can be used for transport. If you already have roads, sidewalks, and metro lines in an area, a monorail can just be another way to get around on top of all that without sacrificing space.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's a cool mode of transit, and can be genuinely useful in some cases.

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[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 5 points 14 hours ago

He doesn't in The Batman (2022). But that's because it's a Bruce Wayne origin story. Batman hasn't created his secret identity yet.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 50 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A rich guy dressing up in body armor and going around beating up poor people to fight systemic corruption is the most believable part of the whole Batman franchise. In his original incarnation he had a gun too.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

IN ONE OF THE animated series/movies uses it to kill zoom.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That's actually the Thomas Wayne that becomes Batman from The flashpoint timeline!

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 64 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

In Batman begins, the issue is corruption.

Everyone knows Falcone is guilty but no one has the legal ability to arrest him.

So Bruce Wayne becomes a vigilante in a more Luigi kind of way in which he is willing to risk things cause he has the tools to do it right.

The whole point of Batman is doing all he can with his resources, even if that means breaking the law.

But yeah, we know today that the most effective thing he can do is not even charity, but pay for lobbying

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's a feature in all superhero media. They don't touch the status quo, or the systems we live in. It's always the fault of a few rotten apples and they're taken care of. Normal people don't need to apply, it's up to a few people with special power to fix it. And in reality, people with money see themselves as more special and empowered than normal people.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago

Those who pursue power or money and nothing else are statistically more likely to achieve the most money or power. It's a filter or selection process. So a 100 billionaires are much much less likely to care, or to know, how a society should function except for what they learned and practiced: capitalism as the wealthy exploiting the masses and buying political power to gain more money.

They are narrow minded nerds in their own specific fields. Techbro's reprogramming reality. In that way the villains stupidly applying their narrow minded views or delusions to social problems is a quite fitting metaphor.

So even if Bruce Wayne would pay lobbyists and donate to political campaigns and do it wisely, he would be the rare exception and outspend 100:1.

[–] Kompressor@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

It's extremely spot on that instead of doing obvious things that would better the city they just invest in a bunch of industry and tech instead. Very on the nose. Especially the Dark Knight Rises Batman where he had a clean energy program that was the answer to the energy crisis or whatever they were in but he just didn't do it because he thought 'the world wasn't ready'.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I'm more pissed that Tony Stark having a clean energy solution was a central part of Ironman 1 and forgotten about in ever sequel. It could have been a theme of Ironman 2 if they aligned if Justin Hammer was invested in dirty energy and offered a juxtaposition to Thanos's nihilistic environmentalism.

Problem is, by the time you're successful in Hollywood, you're invested in the status quo and it shows.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

'The Batman' is even worse as the Wayne charity, which he should be running, is the center of corruption for Gotham.

The Riddler was justified in trying to get revenge on Bruce Wayne.

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 13 points 14 hours ago

It's a Bruce Wayne origin story. Batman hasn't figured out how to be Bruce Wayne yet. The movie is about him realising he needs to do good as Bruce, too.

The Gotham Renewal Fund is managed by city employees. Batman was never told by anyone that he's responsible for it, except the Riddler. And the Riddler was right, and after Batman stops the terrorism, it's implied he starts fixing it.

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 87 points 22 hours ago (13 children)

Here's a Tumblr post about how different versions of Bruce Wayne (comic books, animated series, etc.) have donated huge sums of money to charities and other improvements to Gotham City.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 55 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (11 children)

Meh. Only suckers give a shit about the “generosity” of billionaires. Tax them. Tax them down to millionaire status. Why should they dictate what programs get funded? It’s never worked before.. it’s not suddenly going to start now.

I mean, your own tumblr link is proof of that. After all, Gotham’s still a crime ridden shithole, isn’t it? Clearly Bruce Wayne doesn’t know what Gotham actually needs.

[–] alp@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

In Turkey, our taxes are going to other billionaires anyway...

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

I like how every response to this is complaining about how he, a fictional billionaire that can't actually change the status quo due to how superhero comics work and their inherent nature as propaganda, isn't doing enough. He runs a rehabilitation program for members of gangs like the Penguin's that are often working for these supervillains out of desperation and then hires them at his companies after, hiring convicts at twice the rate of other companies? Well, he should be paying them more than [undefined number]! Clearly, he's only doing this because it makes him richer than his infinite money already does! AND he hasn't even overthrown the corrupt government and installed his own socialist paradise. Clearly, everything that happens in the comics is all his fault, and he only acts when he deigns to trickle down some money to the poor and huddled masses that he sneers at from his golden throne.

It's like complaining that Superman doesn't just lobotomize Lex Luthor and be done with it since he's just going to keep doing evil things and hurting people. Not only did he do that in that alternate timeline where he became dictator of the world "to permanently stop crime," but they also wouldn't have a story anymore if they just did the Marvel movie thing of killing off the villain at the end of every movie.

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