Here's a Tumblr post about how different versions of Bruce Wayne (comic books, animated series, etc.) have donated huge sums of money to charities and other improvements to Gotham City.
this post was submitted on 28 Feb 2025
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Meh. Only suckers give a shit about the “generosity” of billionaires. Tax them. Tax them down to millionaire status. Why should they dictate what programs get funded? It’s never worked before.. it’s not suddenly going to start now.
I mean, your own tumblr link is proof of that. After all, Gotham’s still a crime ridden shithole, isn’t it? Clearly Bruce Wayne doesn’t know what Gotham actually needs.
Gotham’s still a crime ridden shithole
In most continuities, Gotham is literally supernaturally cursed, often in multiple different ways
I am convinced that someone at some point in the DC universe timeline decided to make a shithole sink just to see what happens, Gotham was the end result. Shame it somehow became multi dimensional.
So you think removing the main plot device is the way to go for Batman stories?
Not necessarily disagreeing with you in the real world. But what do you expect from fiction?
At the end of the day it's all propaganda. Yes, I think the best version of propaganda about how to deal with the wealthy would do this, and show how it's more effective. I don't think creating media about how we should rely on billionaires to solve our problems out of their own good will is a good idea.
Fuck me. Do you think making a comic about helping the poor and saving others in the 30's was propaganda? Think about it.
Do you think Captain America wasn't? All media is to some extent.
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Points for talking about real issues but also this is a pretend fantasy billionaire we're talking about
better yet, fundamentally remove their power to rise again and build a system where money is not equal to power.
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I like how every response to this is complaining about how he, a fictional billionaire that can't actually change the status quo due to how superhero comics work and their inherent nature as propaganda, isn't doing enough. He runs a rehabilitation program for members of gangs like the Penguin's that are often working for these supervillains out of desperation and then hires them at his companies after, hiring convicts at twice the rate of other companies? Well, he should be paying them more than [undefined number]! Clearly, he's only doing this because it makes him richer than his infinite money already does! AND he hasn't even overthrown the corrupt government and installed his own socialist paradise. Clearly, everything that happens in the comics is all his fault, and he only acts when he deigns to trickle down some money to the poor and huddled masses that he sneers at from his golden throne.
It's like complaining that Superman doesn't just lobotomize Lex Luthor and be done with it since he's just going to keep doing evil things and hurting people. Not only did he do that in that alternate timeline where he became dictator of the world "to permanently stop crime," but they also wouldn't have a story anymore if they just did the Marvel movie thing of killing off the villain at the end of every movie.
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He should pay his employees more. I don't care if he pays them twice the average for their positions, he is clearly wealthy enough that his businesses can afford it.
The system we live under explicitly would label that guy an idiot.
Why pay a pleb anything beyond what is necessary when you can keep it for yourself
yeah, but that's the societal trap. who cares what other people think if you know you're doing the right thing by taking care of people who take care of you?
Well that's the thing apparently rich people care very much what other rich people think about that. It is pathological mental illness.
and they own all the media to ensure that bootlickers think what they want.
Something about camel passing through the loop of a needle.
And there is a reason why Jesus didn't negotiate with the money changers polluting the temple.
I agree with everything you're saying. Maybe since its so in-our-faces now, things will maybe change? time will tell.
In principle, you're correct.
In practice, the social pressure from rich peers will generally win out.
In that post he bankrolls many things that should already be subsidized by the state.
Also it's not systematic, it's just within his sphere of interest. If he physically sees you suffering he will make a grand public gesture to end it and buy himself some PR at the same time. This is the conservative mindset. Live two cities over? Tough luck. Anonymous donation? No of course not, Wayne Enterprises needs all the publicity it can get.
He picks and chooses his favorites, like every billionaire out there.
Anonymous donation? No of course not, Wayne Enterprises needs all the publicity it can get
Except lobbying "donations" that's free speech and must done in private away from pedons eyes
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I was about to say, I reject OP's argument on it's merits
The main reason super man is better than batman is because superman is working class. There's no ethical way to be a billionaire, even if you inherit it.
Superman was born with power and recognizes that he doesn't deserve it so he tries to use that power to help people whenever he can.
Batman was also born with power but decided that that wasn't enough so he travelled the world acquiring more power and then returned home to use that power to enforce his will while wearing a mask to escape accountability.
Superman is an elite superhero who cosplays as working class
So elite he has trouble paying rent, sometimes.
The point of Superman is that he could BE the most elite being on the planet, but chooses instead to give himself to those who need it most
The second thing he ever did was throw a wife-beater through a wall
Clark fuckin rules
He's a journalist son of farmers though
And a hell of a good dad.
Anarchist Batman is the best Batman.
Him and his hat always pop into my thoughts, from time to time.
i want batman who is not billionaire yet still manages to achieve same things through ingenuity and community effort
Absolute batman, not born a bajilionare
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This conversation is missing the part where he says "all of them"
And then also dresses as a bat
Maybe it's changed over the last decade but not so much. Massive homeless problem, incredible mob presence, and a constantly filled forensic sanitarium.
If he made Gotham a better place he wouldn't be able to punch mentally ill people at night to get his dead parents to love him
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Except Batman's saved Gotham and the world a few times. Presumably not being a billionaire would make that much harder. Personally, I think the continued existence of everyone we know and love is worth more than all of Bruce Wayne's wealth.
If he "saved" Gotham, he wouldn't need to exist anymore
When someone plants a bomb that will destroy Gotham and Batman defuses and removed the bomb, what has Batman done to the city if you don't think he saved it?
Like, if I save a child from getting hit by a car today is the kid now immortal?
He didn't defuse it, he just shielded himself under some heavy iron pipes when it went off.
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