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Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] sasquatch7704@lemmy.world 33 points 9 hours ago

That was painful to watch. Trump and Vence were pathetic and the end rambling about Biden, laptop, wtf was that? If Kamala did then same they would have taken her by force to a mental institution.

[–] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

It would be wildly illegal for me to say what I think of, and wish for, both Trump and Vance, but I'm still gonna quietly pray to whoever is listening that it happens.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Correct. It is 100% illegal to call for the sudden and violent death of Trump and Vance, even if you think that they are white trash traitors who would, in fact, be better off dead.

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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 68 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

I’m glad we get to see this shameful display. I wouldn’t talk to a dog like that, much less the democratically elected leader of another sovereign nation that’s an ally. The US used to be a beacon of freedom and diplomacy, but clearly we shouldn’t expect that from the current regime.

Europe will keep supporting Ukraine regardless, but it really is in the US’ interests to stay involved in this conflict. It’s disconcerting that Trump can’t seem to grasp that basic fact.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I hope that the rest of the world is taking notes and realizing that they cannot rely on the current US government to uphold its side of any prior agreements (or even the basic tenets of etiquette in civil discourse).

I hope that every country that does most of its trade with the US is quietly looking for new markets.

I hope that Republican isolationism actually comes to pass so that the entire population of the US can feel exactly how painful it will be to cut themselves off from the rest of the world. And then in two years, I hope enough people will get off their asses and vote against the people who let it happen.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 hours ago

The rest of the world certainly is watching.

There's been pretty much universal condemnation and acknowledgement that the US is no longer the leader of the free world.

[–] alatha_thrythwynn@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do you really think Dumpf and his puppeteers are going to allow free and fair elections? I don't even believe this last election was such.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Living in a red state I believe the election was fair... but the cult is all too real. So is gerrymeandering.

[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 37 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's also just so weak.

Not that macho'ism should be a major point or even desirable trait for a world leader IMO, but so many people like Trump because he's allegedly strong. Yet when I watch the above clip I just keep thinking "he's so weak and soft and overly sensitive to essentially everything." Like how can you want a tough leader, then watch that exchange and think "Trump is tough." What?

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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

Congrats Never Genocide people posing as Progressives. We fucking warned you that exactly this was going to happen. Trump and his cult would side with Russia and throw Ukraine under the bus.

Great fucking job.

And great fucking job, Mods, for protecting those fucks in the name of civility.

We are the baddies now. And we got here because you'd rather protect Nazis from being punched in the mouth for their words and actions in the name of civility.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Doing God's work in excusing the DNC's unwillingness to do what it took to defeat Trump (just like, right now, they're not doing what it takes to stop him).

For the instinctive ass-kisser it's never the Royalty who is to blame, always the plebes.

With an "opposition" that doesn't actually oppose and is ever less representative of the population, Project 2025 was always going to happen, sooner or later, since the trend of the last 2 decades has been ever more of far right populism, propped up by the Democrats' ever more Rightwing policies and ever less trying to represent the broader population (and repeatedly using "we're not them" as their entire electoral strategy).

You know what might've worked? Not having licked the boots of the Democrat Leadership during the last decade or two.

Now, you're getting to enjoy the bed you made for yourself.

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