That would require removing mega-rich conservatives from party leadership. I don’t see that happening.
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So long as they have corporate donors and insider trading, they will never be the workers' party.
Nobody is coming to save us. The working class needs to organize to save itself.
The good news is that if it works, we'll be in a much better place than where we were a decade ago. It's going to take a lot of hard work, and we all need to pitch in a little to make it happen. It might not work, but there's nothing to lose in trying except our chains.
General Strike. Shut the country down, they'll get violent. They will use the police and the national guard to attempt to break the strike. But hold firm, because then they'll beg.
They can break up a picket line, but they can't stop you all going home in response to it. The end result is the strike continues. Or as it's a general strike just move somewhere else.
Which is why I have always contended the first place to strike is against the police, government, and churches.
Not healthcare CEOs, and business… as long as your local police department, legislature building, and local church are undisturbed nothing will change.
Yup. The Democrats as we've known them need to die or completely metamorphose. I don't want my political party to be friends with CEO's and billionaires, I want my political party to get the American people's fair share. I want my party to look upon trillion dollar companies and billion dollar families with the same disgust and ire I have. There's no such thing as a good billionaire, a good person could never take that much.
Let's bust some monopolies, let's tax the fuck outta tycoons. Stop giving billions of government dollars to privately owned and traded companies. Let's invest in infrastructure projects that make our country better. Who gives a fucking shit about GDP, it doesn't make my life better.
Best they can do is embrace fascism.
yeah the party of insider trading will definitely be the workers' party if you wish it hard enough.
As a non American, I've been told by an American colleagues that the Republicans are traditionally the worker's party. Could someone please clarify?
Additionally, my opinion is that the entire system needs to be abolished to allow representation from more than two parties to represent how diverse America is.
Tldr: Democrats were the party of the South until the 90s
Alabama, for example, didn't elect a Republican governor until 1986. Mississippi didn't elect one until 1991. Georgia didn't elect one until 2002.
Claims Nixon was the Republican who came up with the idea of pandering to racists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_United_States_presidential_election
See Jimmy Carter’s support in the South
So a long time ago, you could argue the Republicans were the worker's party. Abolionist-focused, was comfortable with immigrants more than other parties at the time, and Lincoln even exchanged letters with Karl Marx, but indrectly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_of_the_International_Working_Men%27s_Association_to_Abraham_Lincoln
Republicans in the 1800s stood for minimum wage, pushed for suffrage of women, and other generally good ideas like "Maybe we should listen to the unionists who are willing to die for an 8 hour work week."
But over the centuries since, the lines blurred. In the 1930s a Democrat pushed for expansions of the social net due to the great depression. In the 1950s, a Republican advocated for billions to spent on the interstate highway system, that has never once made a dime back over the last decades.
Then the southern strategy happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy Republicans marketed themselves towards the white South as a way to say "Hey we back what you stand for, whatever it is" and that's when South started to vote for Republicans, and Nixon took advantage of this.
But the Republicans today don't even care about the white workers, they don't about any workers, they only care about the rich. Have been since at least the 1980s from Ronald Reagan. Democrats lately tend to protect the workers more, but it varies from state to federal, but generally wages are up with Democrats, and we've had more expansions of workers rights with them.
How far back are they talking "traditionally"? You can make an argument that they were a century ago. Not a particularly strong argument, but there's an argument. Go back even further, and Karl Marx himself was congratulating Abraham Lincoln. After all, slaves are the most exploited workers.
The last 50 years, though? Absolutely not, but their bleating about "coastal elites" hoodwinks a lot of people to think otherwise.
Yes! My colleagues were talking about the elites in California when they mentioned that.
Because they're jealous of a state that isn't a shit hole
Source: Californian with family in a red state: if you're close enough to them they'll admit it unknowingly
I think that all makes sense. A state government that wants to improve the working class will generally be more rich, and a state that doesn't will have more poor.
Nice. When another debate comes up in the office, I'll have some ammo
I would really like to know why your American colleagues think that.
Their words were something to the effect of Democrats always campaigning with celebrities and supported by rich people, while Republicans are supported by the poor and don't campaign with rich people (I did point out Musk to them and they replied that Musk is a hard worker etc.).
Thanks for the follow up. The notion is totally at odds with their actions and efforts, and it's kind of disheartening to hear their reasoning. I shouldn't be surprised though.
Probably briefly remembering high school talking about Republicans doing good things, and then thinking Fox News is accurate reporting.
It's like pro wrestling. Their gimmick is that they are working class that busts their assess working hard labor jobs to feed their families. The democratic gimmick is that of well meaning and educated individuals seeking a bright future.
But in reality is that they are both moronic abusive assholes and one is a nazi.