How many american tax dollars were wasted on this DOGE???
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Right, they've perfected the rocket, now we just need to load Elon onto the next flight.
Hmm maybe the FAA should not have cleared the flight since the rocket in January wasn't fully investigated to completion. You rush complex engineering and science and things go wrong.
Remember that Elon said we would land on Mars by 2024?
We haven't even started thinking about a Mars misson lmao
That was always absurd, on the face of it. Heck, I don't even see the appeal of going to Mars.
Obama era had everyone optimistic about the future.
We also desperately wanted any space program. The space shuttles were retired in 2011 and we were reliant on Russia for flights at that point.
Musk said the things progressives wanted to hear, but eventually we wanted substance. That's when he shifted to catering to conservatives, who are ok with being lied to.
Heck, I don't even see the appeal of going to Mars
There's no people there
Well, that's one thing it has going for it.
The FAA was investigating SpaceX from the last explosion and grounded all spacex flight until after an investigation. Then, the nazi-in-chief fired the FAA leader to get his way.
Remember when the FAA grounded him till he got this fix and then Musk told the FAA head to retire or be fired?
I think it's wild that "better times" is now when corruption wasn't so naked.
Remember a few years back when Trump was bemoaning Elon's rockets to nowhere?
Pepperidge... Forbes remembers.
That article is a wild. Feels like we are in a story with terrible foreshadowing and retcons
I say this as someone who loathes Musk, its not a big deal that this exploded.
But the success or failures of the program should also not be meaningfully attributed to Musk anyway. He owns the company but hes not an engineer.
I personally want Musk's space program to fail because scientific advances and achievements need to belong to the people, not some corporate asshole. Publically funded science is the only way to go. Also, NASA seemed to have mastered the rocket back in the 60s--SpaceX can't even do that.
The Saturn V was built by Boeing, North American, and Douglas.
Unfortunately NASA rockets are also made by corporate assholes because everything is outsourced to the military industrial complex
NASA's mission is to pioneer the future in space exploration, scientific discovery, and aeronautics research. I’ll support any model that enables those principles. They paved the way in the 60s and that’s enabled others to succeed. Isn’t that the highest form of achievement? Look at what SpaceX has done with their massively reusable Falcon 9. The space shuttle flew 135 missions over 40 years; that’s about 3 a year. There’s been 453 Falcon 9 flights (134 in 2024 alone) and a single Falcon 9 stack has been reused 26 times… all of those achievements happened within a span of 15 years. I think it’s safe to say that they’ve mastered the rocket. You’re just seeing the R&D phase of their new one …which has the added spectacle of some rapid unscheduled disassemblies that we get to witness 😉
I think it can be attributed to Musk because he's the driving force behind pushing the "move fast and break things" mentality into rocket science. They haven't figured out why the last one blew up and they go ahead and launch another one which looks like it blew up for the same reasons.
That might work with non-critical software, but when you're talking about large rockets it's bound to get people killed eventually. At the very least they could've built a launch site for testing where the rockets aren't going over populated areas. But naw, build it in Texas and fire untested rockets over Caribbean countries, because there's not enough white people in those countries for Musk to give a shit.
He titled himself as the chief engineer of SpaceX. And this is no joke.
It pisses me off that I'm rooting against Space X, a company with an unarguably cool mission and product. Fuck Musk.
Going to space under capitalism makes no sense.
Why should space exploration need or want a profit motive?
Create an anarcho-communist society where we firstly house, feed, and educate everyone. Explore space for the pure purpose of exploration in conditions where we can all collaborate without the need of competition and destruction.
I have a family member that works as an engineer building parts for various spacecraft. They get excited about the possibility of finding a renewable energy source and just in general what science can gain and learn from space that will make life better on earth.
Do with that what you will, I'm neutral, I'm just providing a different perspective that I think is relevant.
May all things of Musk crash and burn
To be fair, I’m gonna play devil’s advocate and point out that Falcon 9 is one of, if not the most reliable launch vehicles ever built, and their landing success rate is phenomenal, and that they got there by fucking up, a lot, and eventually figuring out how to not do that.
That being said, I’m getting pretty tired of Musk getting all of the credit for the work of countless engineers and scientists, where fuckboi’s physics doctorate doesn’t actually exist..
That's our money, every penny.
Has he tried firing half the SpaceX employees, slicing half the budget and making everyone still there send an email detailing what they did this week?
America is footing this bill. This is no more musk's "Mars program" than it is MY mars program. Matter of fact, seeing as I pay taxes and he doesn't, it's more mine that his.
It's time to remove musk's U.S. subsidies for cars, rockets, and whatever else he's fucking up.
Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth.
Ughhhh just get in the rocket, rocket boy!!!
Yeah, Musk is just not micro managing enough. If he was on board he'd be able to fix any issues that come up in real time.
Maybe the internal GPS was looking for the Gulf of Mexico and just gave up?
Are those astronauts back on earth yet? No? Still stranded on the ISS? Okay...
Hope he's on the next flight
SpaceX can still pivot to a fireworks company and let decades old soviet rockets take people to the ISS. I'm sure that DOGE will cut the wasteful government grants this company gets.
To be fair, only their crazy concept rocket keeps falling tests. The actual in use rockets have literally the best success/safety rate in history. Just a shame a Nazi owns the company.
Looking forward to SpaceX fans continuing to talk about how much SpaceX is insulated from musk's stupidity thanks to Shotwell.
Not a failure. The whole point of R&D before doing a genuine payload is to remove this sort of issue. While the association of the company with Musk is truly crappy, this explosion is genuinely useful.
If this project were European or under a different administration, I would feel the same.
It is usefull but the trouble is that they should be much and much more certain about their designs. Let's say they want 99.99% reliability for real payload then they should by now be at 99.9% . If they want to do it by trail and error they would need to do a lot trials to show that they actually achieved that reliability. Otherwise the next one is still just as likely to explode. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you can't get there by trial and error.