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[–] remon@ani.social 6 points 55 minutes ago

No need to go overseas, almost all countries with birthright citizenship are in the Americas.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

The better term might be "abroad", rather than "overseas". Because Jus Soli is a concept that exists mostly in the Americas. So you'd better not cross over the Atlantic or Pacific sea for this plan.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

That isn’t the plan you think it is. The US is an outlier in terms of granting birthright citizenship. Most countries - and particularly, most developed countries - do not do this.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Canada, Mexico and a lot of South America countries do this.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And if you believe any of them are safe territory when it comes to what our batshit government might do, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn looking for a buyer.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 2 points 47 minutes ago

I hope Canada is safe, becauseI live there.

Obviously all of those are also Nazi countries

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

They would have to have birth right citizenship for that to work.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago

Buddy, trust me you really shouldn't want Americans to become citizens in your country.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 38 minutes ago

nobody likes immigrants, and that includes other countries

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

We don't recognize birthright citizenship. You'll have to fill in the paperwork like everyone else.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Americans posting memes against American Imperialism, while simultaneously having an American-Centric worldview about the world in regards to citizenship.

Ironic.

(No offense to OP 😉)

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a good era in which to not have children. Expect a lot of forsaken children.

Also expect some coerced birthing programs such as the Leibensborn program (which was also an excuse to recruit young women as sex slaves for the Schutzstaffel ) and the offspring were supported by the state and raised by the single mothers.

This is the program that inspired the Handmaid program in Margaret Atwood's Gilead, in A Handmaid's Tale

And J. D. Vance is super thirsty for it, as is countless other Freedom caucus and MAGA Republican officials.

ETA That said, it might be a good time to get sterilized and commit to not having kids. (That doesn't mean you won't have chances to parent)

Counterpoint:if all leftists don't have kids, then conservatives will end up as the entire next generation. Not to like say, definitely have kids, but anti kid propaganda only hurts us

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 71 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, very few countries have birthright only citizenship.

[–] placatedmayhem@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

Here's the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Unrestricted_jus_soli

If I'm counting correctly, 34 countries with unrestricted birthright citizenship, and 40 with restricted.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 63 points 19 hours ago

Well your kid won't get citizenship, but you'll be able to afford to birth them.

[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Is birth citizenship that common? Won't work here in Germany for example...

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 61 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Literally zero European countries do it. It seems to be in the Americas only, and Chad and Tanzania. The concept that this is some human right apparently only applies to he US.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's because we had a whole thing of people claiming that people born enslaved weren't citizens or eligible to vote

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious what the difference between how America went about giving slaves citizenship versus countries in Europe. There's the obvious difference of birthright that's an issue today, just curious why America ended up here and Europe did not.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 24 minutes ago

I think at least some countries in Europe had a similar system as the US but moved to Restricted Birthright in the 80s because of freeloading - i.e. well off people with no connection to a country just flying over and having their kids there to give them citizenship in that country.

With Restricted Birthright the parents have to have been living in that country for a few years - so de facto being members of that society - to earn that right.

Personally I think it's fair that those comitted to participating in a Society all deserve the same rights (including local nationality for their children) independently of themselves having or not the local nationality, whilst those who are not comitted to participating in that Society do not, and "being resident in that country for more than X years" seems to me a pretty neutral and reasonably fair way to determine "comitted to participating in that country's Society".

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't work in most countries. Being stateless isn't very fun.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (6 children)

US citizenship comes from the mother, if born abroad. The baby would automatically be a US citizen, possibly have dual citizenship.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 46 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Most countries don't have birthright citizenship.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 17 points 19 hours ago

Yes, I’m just saying that the baby of a US woman would not be a stateless person if born in a country that doesn’t have it.

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[–] Kualdir@feddit.nl 177 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

This only works if you go to the green countries:

Edit: Source

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 30 points 20 hours ago

It's pretty telling about how much Americans know about other countries that the assumption is that Jus Soli is the norm.

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 47 points 23 hours ago (13 children)

What if I go to the gray countries? Do I despawn?

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 23 hours ago

You can't go there until the next expansion.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 23 points 21 hours ago

They have deathright citizenship. You automatically become a citizen if you die in their territory.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 101 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Haha, that's not how it works outside the US.

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