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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I mean I see why Reddit and Twitter are doing it. We're in a really weird transitional period of the internet right now, for better or for worse. They're doing it to prevent scraping, because why would you read all these garbage tweets to get to the information you need when an ChatGPT can spit out the exact information without fluff? It's taking their content without any funding back to them, effectively stealing their revenue.

So what are these companies to do? Honestly I hope this is birth to a new form of social media, and this benefits the fedi greatly. It will be unsustainable to run large social media companies like theirs who profit off of user data and content. Whereas tons of fedi servers ran by hobbiest, effectively ran out of pocket or by donations, is much more sustainable. They're doing it for community and more pure content that everyone wants without corporate fluff. If ChatGPT scrapes the fedi community, that's okay because the fedi isn't designed to make money so nothing is lost.

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[–] Mishmash@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So with Spez having a hard on for Elon and how he runs Twitter, how long until we see this on Reddit? Premium members can view 1000 posts/day and regular members can only view 100 posts/day. Similar rule will apply to comments too.

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[–] snek@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Extreme levels of data scraping" my ass. This is probably meant to reduce server costs because Elon put a huge hole in this boat and now he does a very loud "look-what-you-made-me-do" scream. And what on earth would "system manipulation" exactly mean? Sounds like some pseudo-profound bullshit.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Things like Reddit and Twitter are bad for billionaires. It makes it harder for them to exploit you when there is a public place to talk about their bullshit.

[–] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That was my reaction when Elon first bought twitter. It's like he's so stupid he thinks Twitter is the only possible platform that could ever be a twitter.

It turns out, we're all pretty clever at figuring out places to talk. The talking is going to happen. Where we do the talking keeps changing.

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[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

"To address extreme levels of failing to pay our bills & firing every competent person at Twitter, we've applied the following temporary limits:"

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

This truly is a genius level move. If users are using your site, they are contributing to your hosting costs. You don’t want that.

[–] Nathaniel_essex@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon is so damn transparent. I NEVER remembering anything like this happening before Elon. Dude is running this like a moronic mob boss.

"Hey..it'd be a shame if you could only view 600 tweets. I have this Twitter Blue that might be able to help...."

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It must be nice to be able to waste 44 billion dollars and not miss it.

I could live comfortably for the rest of my life on 1/10,000th of what Elon spent.

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[–] kwot@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (11 children)

...as for me, I'm kinda getting a kick out of all this chaos

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[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Between this and reddit going "down" yesterday, the internet just sucks right now.

[–] zeeps@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the internet is healing. This is a dream come true.

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[–] Streetdog@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Internet is what you make of it. Plenty of good stuff to find out here. Just leave when you encounter greed.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. Reddit was just kinda "the place" for a lot of online communities, imo. Hopefully Lemmy can grow into something great.

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[–] MoltenBoron@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It must have taken all of Elon's willpower to not make the limits:

  • Verified accounts are limited to reading 6969 posts/day
  • Unverified accounts to 420 posts/day
  • New unverified accounts to 69/day
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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think it's important to remember that these companies DID NOT CREATE THIS DATA! They are protecting things that are not theirs.

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[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago

I gave up on Twitter when this turd took over but holy shit...

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That has been his goal since he got forced to actually buy it rather than just boosting the stock so he could make a profit, which like most of his antics was really the only goal (publicity and money)

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[–] softpboy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There’s a golden rule: don’t make big changes on an app on Friday because if it fails people are going to have to work during the weekend.

This asshole made the changes on a Saturday

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[–] noodle@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Almost certainly this isn't anything to do with scraping. Like with Reddit, those with a stake in Twitter stand to benefit from AI and, as far as I know, there's no mass reposting (retweeting?) effort to something like Mastodon.

That would be trivial to block anyway, since it would be easy to identity the service accounts and source IP's of the requests. No need to impact average users.

What's more likely is he hasn't paid the bill for his cloud infrastructure and no longer has the capacity to serve so many users.

IMO, that's what you get when you fire half of your staff.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

This seems extremely low for all categories. Good for getting people unaddicted though

[–] Daisychan@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twitter was great during the big earthquake we had in Japan, because phones weren't working. People sent out tweets for help and got help thanks to twitter.

After this, a lot of municipalites made accounts and now they post emergency info on twitter, but this just fucks everything up.

[–] whatsarefoogee@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Governments should build their own emergency communication channels instead of relying on platforms that are entirely out of their control.

If anything, it's a good early wake up call.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is for reading‽‽ That is absolutely insane.

[–] itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess he found out that selenium script kiddies like myself can simply scrape the website instead of paying the api fees. It's not as efficient — or maybe my scripts just suck — but you can't beat free!

Or, more cynically, they're making the app more painful to use if you aren't paying for it.

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[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are rumors that Twitter is having a dispute with its cloud providers, that is why they need to limit bandwidth.

[–] SirCrate@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No rumor, they outright refuse to pay bills

So much for capitalism

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Refuse to pay bills for your clouds infrastructure.

Refuse to pay rent for your offices.

Big brain time.

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