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Kind of a quick off the cuff question.... but is it difficult to get a docker hosted jellyfin server accessible outside of lan safely?

I have tailscale and a VPN I can use for my own devices but would like to be able to access it safely without needing those.

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stick with the VPN. No point in exposing more services with possible security vulnerabilities.

[–] doeknius_gloek@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love Jellyfin but I would absolutely not make it accessible over the public internet. A VPN is the way to go.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm thinking maybe just have family sign up for tailscale.

[–] manwichmakesameal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why not just run your own WireGuard instance? I have a pivpn vm for it and it works great. You could also just put jellyfin behind a TLS terminating reverse proxy.

[–] dinosaurdynasty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a pain to get non technical family members to use. If you're willing to break the non web app you could always put it behind an authenticating proxy (which is what I do for myself outside of VPN, setting up a VPN on a phone is obnoxious and I only look at metadata anyway on my phone)

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Or headscale, works like a charm

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Why not just run your own WireGuard instance?

CGNAT is a big reason.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, that way you can set ACLs, you they can only access the jellyfin ports + the ports you allow them to.

Also, tailacale DNS.

The fact that tailscale has google/apple/etc logon integration will also help.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] doeknius_gloek@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, i didn't think this is a link 😅😅😅

[–] doeknius_gloek@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Haha, no problem!

[–] eluvatar@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oof, that's bad... And lazy

[–] PulsarSkate@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately a lot of these issues are architectural issues inherited from Emby

[–] darkan15@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If you are not behind a CGNAT, it should be as easy as opening the necessary ports.

I have a reverse proxy running in ports 80, 443 and can safely access Jellyfin on a subdomain without issues from outside my LAN.

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
CGNAT Carrier-Grade NAT
DNS Domain Name Service/System
NAT Network Address Translation
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL
VPN Virtual Private Network

5 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 8 acronyms.

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To get it outside the LAN, you just need to forward the port it uses in your router. Example 8096 for regular http requests. I would highly recommend getting at least a reverse proxy with an SSL cert.

[–] Boring@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Depends on your definition of safe.

If you do a public port forward and set up basic security and proper SSL its safe from the majority of people.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

You can but it will cause security issues. You will need to buy a domain and setup a SSL proxy with https to proxy traffic in. After than I would lock down you firewall rules and make sure that a compromise can't escape the isolated environment.

Also make sure you docker container is hardened against excaping as it will improve security when a security hole is discovered in jellyfin