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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 122 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Reminder that Microsoft is trying to shift Windows to be entirely cloud based, so this can easily happen overnight without your consent. You don't own your OS. Linux is the only way, unless you're one of those strange BSD folks.

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[–] Relected@sh.itjust.works 101 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rizoid@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's not fake but it is confusing. Pluton is a chip mostly meant for cloud infrastructure. I believe some surface devices have it too but either way just don't use windows if you're sailing the high seas.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago

just don't use windows if you're sailing the high seas.

Or just don't use windows.

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[–] ErKaf@feddit.de 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Must suck to be a Windows User

[–] birdyer@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Common Microsoft L

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 year ago

Microsoft can't be bothered to make a single, unified control panel but they have resources to work on shit like this.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 50 points 1 year ago

I've never heard of microsoft pluton- that's why I wasnt talking about it

[–] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago

Because Windows is known to be malicious spyware, and you should consider not tolerating it any longer.

[–] 0xb@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember a similar scare when Vista was coming out, and then nothing happened. Probably the tech wasn't ready then and now it is, that's why is so encouraging so see big progress in Linux gaming, just in case.

Edit: found a source for the Vista thing https://www.forbes.com/2007/02/10/microsoft-vista-drm-tech-security-cz_bs_0212vista.html?sh=38c0bc9e175e

And yes, we know the picture is fake, but the Pluton platform is real and the nefarious intentions can always be counted on.

[–] elephantintheroom@vlemmy.net 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Meh... just another reason added to a looong list about why I never looked back after switching to Linux, back when Vista was introduced.

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[–] amygeek@reddthat.com 40 points 1 year ago

If you click on "More info" you have the option to run it. You'll see a message indicating there's risk involved in doing so.

[–] ImTiagoSousa@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Isn't this bypassed by clicking "More info" and the "Run" button appears?

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I switched to pop os recently and I'm never going back to Windows. It's easier now than ever to switch to Linux, even for gamers. Steam, proton, and wine have made running your Windows apps and games in Linux so easy. You'd have to have a very specific use case to justify staying with Windows now.

Here's a fun one: I own two video capture devices, an Elgato HD 60 S and an Avermedia LiveGamer Portable 2. Both do not work in Linux. I found a simple USB HDMI capture device that works in Linux and cost a fraction of what thosmother overhyped ones cost me. It works way better than they ever did. That was one of my last adjustments. I can still stream my Switch and PS5 on Twitch, no problem.

That's a pretty niche use case and it was easy.

[–] Slopz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

A good portion of popular multiplayer games doesn't work on Linux due to anticheat issues (R6S, Valorant, PUBG, Fortnite, CODs, BF2042, Destiny 2, Rust, Escape from Tarkov etc) so it's not as easy to switch to Linux just yet if you play any of those games. Not to mention lack of support from industry standard software such as Adobe etc.

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[–] this_is_router@feddit.de 38 points 1 year ago

20 years ago it was called TCP/Palladium and everyone was afraid this might happen. That was one of the reasons Microsoft implemented TPM chips.

Obviously everyone forget about it until now. Happy new times where Microsoft can dictate which files your, sorry, their computer is allowed to open.

[–] LeHappStick@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah no... what is this? and where is this?

I'm on the latest stable version of W11 and I have tons of pirated content on my PC lmao

I've never gotten this message

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This post was just a honeypot to see who admits to having possession of pirated content. Please stay where you are and authorities will be dispatched to your location shortly.

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[–] Arklese1zure@lemmy.one 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Holy crap. If this is real, this is gotta be the most dystopian thing I've seen so far. Time to switch OS and never look back.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

As a Linux user no. As a trend that could catch on in general consumer devices.. yes

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[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Never seen this. I'd want way more proof its real. that beside said if it comes to that its Linux time. I don't prefer linux but I've found one that mostly works for me.

[–] DuckGuy@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Uriel238@lemmy.fmhy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes. In order to run pirated content I had to run through a couple of hours of troubleshooting to disable the Microsoft anti-malware software, which would quarrantine and refuse to restore software without consent.

Pluton is a new name and may be Windows 11. Hopefully you can uninstall it with a third-party utility (windows utilities won't let you, and doing it by hand involves mucking around with the registry.l

I'm going to make the switch to Linux once I can brave it because Windows is malware and spyware and getting worse with each iteration.

[–] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I’m going to make the switch to Linux

one of us

Seriously, though, it's easier than ever.

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[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 30 points 1 year ago

I've never seen that particular "error" before, but juddging by how it looks you there's probably a run anyway button hidden under "more info".

[–] surrendertogravity@wayfarershaven.eu 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Damn, never seen that before. Is it a windows 11 thing? It’s looking more and more like I’ll have to move to linux on my desktop, I guess.

Edit: hard to find a source for the image; I assume if it was real there’d be a lot more reports of this online but I’m not seeing those.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

basic research tells me it's a... something integrated in the PC processor. AMD. It's fairly new and started to be released only in some models last year. All this explains why I haven't heard about it until now. Agreed this adds pressure to take on linux

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Microsoft Pluton is hardware level SoC "zero trust" security that can be baked into the CPU. It's an optional implementation of TPM for windows 11, basically, that's much more invasive and harder to bypass when enabled. I'm not sure how or why it would involve itself in media playback though, since it's capabilities seem to be focused around executable security and cryptographic OS/driver verification. So this screenshot is likely fake... for now.

It should be pretty transparent to avoid in the open market. It looks much more geared towards the enterprise space where you want machines to be locked down like this, but I'm sure it'll creep into the consumer space once Microsoft decides it's mandatory.

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[–] SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.com 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Imagine using Windows in 2023

[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

That's pretty easy to imagine based solely on statistical data.

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[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They say "it's always greener on the other side". Can't say it in this case though. I'm using Arch Linux BTW.

[–] ramesdunc@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago

On Arch, the grass is whatever color you configure it to be.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depicted: Why I've been trying to violently cut away Windows' presence in my life.

"Security" features that add no security whatsoever and only exist for DRM reasons

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[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 24 points 1 year ago

What's a windows

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine still using Windows after all the shit they've pulled over the years.

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[–] BlackRose@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 year ago

!stallmanwasright@lemmy.ml

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this windows 11 or 10? That's absolutely wild, never seen it before.

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[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a Linux Uber-amateur, it feels like we’re basically able to do anything I would want to do on Linux now… the thing where Microsoft tries to not allow you to download stuff because they haven’t paid Microsoft to sign it has always annoyed me. This would be the next level of nope.

One thing that’s kept me on the fence is I like multiplayer games, and I had always heard that battle eye didn’t work on Linux, but with all the proton development and steam deck interest, perhaps this is becoming a non issue?

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[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Microsoft Pluton has detected thought crimes in violations of Section 232 (17 U.S.C. § 381) on your device. Your IMEI and local audio-video recordings have been transfered to authorities for further inspection.

[–] _totally_toasted_@lemmy.fmhy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

im telling you the second this gets introduced to windows is the second ill have a linux install USB.

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[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

I consider using windows as self-harm. It is a decision you make. I choose not to harm myself in this way, so this does not concern me.

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