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[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 145 points 1 year ago (27 children)

What the fuck is wrong with you guys. This is absolutely dystopian shit right there.

This is not "nice" or "neat"?!

It's straight up awful. It's war.

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[–] prenatal_confusion@lemmy.one 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The tank-like robot has the ability to transport itself to a preset destination. It can also spot and avoid obstacles by utilizing dozens of sensors and an advanced driving system. Moreover, the platform can self-destruct if it falls into enemy hands.

It is not an autonomous weapons system. It is a platform that can maneuver autonomously.

[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Targeting for the weapon itself is done by a human remotely at least right?

...

...right?

*eta: yeah, it looks like it has a remote driver who can take over the steering and control the gun with a little PS4 controller thingy

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long until there is a version that would let the operator upload a photo of the target and the gun bot would seek and shoot that target automatically, with 99.9% face detection accuracy?

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

Turkey says they have flying drones who already have done that, so ...

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

One more step towards the inevitable weapons-free platform that will eventually come.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Braindead militarists never cease to believe that "only we have it, and therefore..."

The truth is that there will be a life after the war, and the war makes it miserable.

Yes, for both sides.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago

"and prevents risks to human life"... no implications there, I'm sure.

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Semi-autonomous doesnt really mean anything and is a deliberately sensationalist headline.

The key technological discussion is when it's not a human pulling the trigger.

Even guns are semi autonomous by this definition

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The tank-like robot has the ability to transport itself to a preset destination. It can also spot and avoid obstacles by utilizing dozens of sensors and an advanced driving system. Moreover, the platform can self-destruct if it falls into enemy hands.

I'd have to assume it has some sort of finding/tracking tech as well to stay on target. Trying to compare this to a handgun is just silly.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The thing is, will it select a target and fire without manual intervention? I'm less worried about it moving autonomously than killing. Not that in this case I think it will make any difference if a civilian enters l encounters it.

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

The CIWS Phalanx has been doing this since the 70s. The main point is that it's implying something new about it's semi-autonomous nature that hasnt previously been used and is thus noteworthy. A handgun automates much of labour involved with applying kinetic force to another human being, reducing it down to a button press that anyone can do.

Trying to suggest this is somehow newsworthy and that they arent just fishing for clickbait headlines is silly.

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[–] halfmanhalfalligator@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Almost 20 years ago (because bad ties) I was presented with a military video for the development of this horror.
Israelis ~~where~~ were very proud in the video to show this thing driving in front of a poor house and firing from outside through the wall to anything (eventually) living inside. They didn't give a fuck whether it was (to be) woman children or else. (of course the house was empty for the research phase, well I hope so).
This is the kind of monstrosity Palestinians are facing now.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I was hoping to participate in this conversation with some long, interesting back and forths with different people about this inevitable, emerging technology. Then I scrolled the comments section...

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Let's hope that the "AI" doing the aiming was programmed by Microsoft. That way, it would at least not hit anybody....

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Guess I'm done talking shit about Clippy.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It looks like you are trying to violate the Geneva Convention. Would you like help?

  • get help assaulting civilians
  • commit several atrocities from the comfort of your office chair

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 year ago

Looks like your trying to oppress a population, would you like Microsoft Bing AI to draft a press releases to establish a narrative justifying automated anti personal weapons deployed against civilians?

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Introducing our new Stormtrooper™ AI!

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

What is a drone for 500.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Here we go. I can't wait for the Boston Dynamics one to be outfitted with a .50 and drone support.

That's going to be totally cool and amazing watching it launch its 300 lb body off stuff all Parkour like 360 no scoping dudes while the drone drops grenades.

/s incase you need it. This is totally going to suck.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Scary, but neat.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

If the operators can select targets and the drone locks on and fires, that crosses into a high-risk moral gray-zone, since UIs are susceptible to misclicks and the drone may not consider collateral consequences (such as overpenetration.

If the drone can autonomously target and attack on its own algorithms, add to that the inevitable miscalculations meaning it will eventually kill a target that a soldier would not.

In the meantime anarchists amd revolutionaries should examine how to convice it it's been compromised to convince it to self-destruct.

And if it requires a signal from home to auto-destruct, how to block the affirmative signal.

I suspect the GLA is going to develop thick, sticky smoke bombs and signal jammers to make our ground drone blind and isolated. Then it can be neutralized and salvaged for parts.

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