this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...

What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

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[–] sab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For transparency, this is what a Like payload looks like. The first part is just context for the activitiypub protocol and is pretty much the same for each message. The second part contains the actual data of the message, and the most personal detail in it is the url of your own profile, and the url of the post/comment you like:

{
	"@context": ["https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams", "https://w3id.org/security/v1",
	{
		"lemmy": "https://join-lemmy.org/ns#",
		"litepub": "http://litepub.social/ns#",
		"pt": "https://joinpeertube.org/ns#",
		"sc": "http://schema.org/",
		"ChatMessage": "litepub:ChatMessage",
		"commentsEnabled": "pt:commentsEnabled",
		"sensitive": "as:sensitive",
		"matrixUserId": "lemmy:matrixUserId",
		"postingRestrictedToMods": "lemmy:postingRestrictedToMods",
		"removeData": "lemmy:removeData",
		"stickied": "lemmy:stickied",
		"moderators":
		{
			"@type": "@id",
			"@id": "lemmy:moderators"
		},
		"expires": "as:endTime",
		"distinguished": "lemmy:distinguished",
		"language": "sc:inLanguage",
		"identifier": "sc:identifier"
	}],
	"actor": "--URL OF THE USER PROFILE--",
	"object": "--URL OF THE POST OR COMMENT--",
	"type": "Like",
	"id": "-- URL TO THE INSTANCE THAT PASSED THE MESSAGE--",
	"audience": "-- URL TO THE COMMUNITY THE POST IS PART OF--"
}
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[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oh no, so my upvotes on c/spacedicks aren't private?

/s

[–] moonwalker@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about private messages? We should assume the person running the instance can read all private messages.

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. While I see no reason that private message would exist anywhere other than the instance of the sender and receiver, the admins of those instances CAN see the contents of the message and whether or not they have been read.

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[–] stagen@feddit.dk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fine with it too. Don't think I'd be here if I wasn't okay with sharing these sort of things. If I wanted privacy for my upvotes or downvotes (why tho?), I'd do it anonymously.

And yeah, I upvoted the beans as well. Ate beans 90% of the time as a student. Still farting from it 20 years later.

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[–] y5d@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd be really shocked if they recorded IP addresses as well.

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[–] trouser_mouse@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I think this is to be expected - some instances have downvotes disabled but that doesn't seem to be the rule of thumb.

There are quite a few questions about data retention, usage, retrieval, compliance and how it is shared which will need to be addressed as the platform grows.

Countdown for this to be monetised by someone.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So this is interesting... I thought only kbin visualized voting. Does this mean Lemmy's users are also tracked on kbin?

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree that this is a good fit for YSK, however, I think it's important to keep in mind that privacy isn't a main goal of the system. It's designed to distribute the cost and responsibility and be difficult to take down or influence as a whole network, but it does not appear to be designed to hide user activities.

In fact, I propose that we keep this information publicly listed so that users are under no illusion that their interaction with Lemmy is private. Transparency and communication prevents misunderstandings.

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[–] Stuka@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Uh...duh? Why would you think this info wouldn't be available to admins and also....who cares?

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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Good to know but I always assume everything is public on the internet.

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