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How to use PeerTube for Podcasting (fedihost.co)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Paige@piefed.ca to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Created a guide over the weekend on hosting a podcast with PeerTube. Going with Spotify/YouTube is tempting for many, but they may not have realized how easy/affordable PeerTube has become for hosting and maintaining complete control of a feed.

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[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 13 points 1 year ago

So .. I've been making a weekly podcast for over 14 years. For all that time I've had complete control over my own content by hosting all the audio, the transcripts, the website and the RSS feeds on an AWS S3 bucket for a couple of dollars per month.

I submitted the RSS feed to several aggregators like iTunes, Spotify, YouTube and others. There's eBooks, I send out weekly email, post on Mastodon and Lemmy (previously on Xitter and Reddit) and it's included in other podcasts, news broadcasts and magazines.

How is adding PeerTube adding anything except more cost to me? What is the benefit of this that goes beyond people using their preferred podcast player downloading the audio from my own existing platform?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago

It adds video. If you don't care about video, and you already have a system that works, it's probably not for you.

If potentially a new person wanted somewhere to host a podcast, they could do that using PeerTube. Along with all the other video services it offers.

[-] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I perfectly agree, RSS has always worked, and is federated, in a better way than even activitypub, as pretty much each podcast is on the servers of the owners, and that the clients do the aggregation.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago

If you actually read the OP, PeerTube podcasts are ALSO distributed via RSS.

[-] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

that's a good thing, if you host it on your own instance.

[-] Paige@piefed.ca 2 points 1 year ago

This guide outlines how to start a podcast for people who are already running PeerTube.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

Why not use https://castopod.org/ ? It is also federated via ActivityPub and specifically made for Podcasts.

[-] Paige@piefed.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Because if you're already running (or want to run) a PeerTube instance you can save yourself from having to setup and maintain another thing.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago

It doesn't support video

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago

Since when do podcasts have video?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since shortly after their inception. ~2003

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 year ago

That's not a podcast then 🙄

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I mean they had video iPod shortly after the release of the original iPod so I think a video podcast still fits the definition of “iPod broadcast”

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 year ago

Four years later and with a really crappy small screen that I doubt anyone used for actually watching videos. Apparently battery life was atrocious too when doing so.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago

How is it not?

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't fit the definition of a podcast then.

Sure, some podcasters also upload their podcasts on video sites, but if the video is a vital part of it and you can't just listen to it, then it doesn't qualify as a podcast.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago

It doesn't fit the definition of a podcast then.

Again I ask, how does it not?

you can't just listen to it, then it doesn't qualify as a podcast.

You can.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago

If you need to pay attention to what is on the screen, it is you know, a video and not a podcast. But I feel we are not getting anywhere here and you are just being contrarian for some silly reason 🤷

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago

I'm being contrarian? What does that make you?

You just keep saying the same nonsense over and over and refusing to back it up in any way.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago

You are arguing like as if TV and radio was the same. But they are not 🤷 I don't need to back up common definitions of words, you know?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago

You do when you're trying to say that Wonderbread is not bread because you don't like it.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago

I am saying bread doesn't have to be Wonderbread to qualify as bread, nor is it a requirement for bread to be Wonderbread 🙄

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago

That's not at all what you're saying. We're done here.

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

virtually every major podcast also records video. you can record video, and audio, and still release those together, or separately on different platforms, or for different sub tiers, patrons, etc. and its still considered a podcast.

ive just read your whole spat, and the only person in this exchange who has actually been contrarian (by its definition) has been you.

lets not gate keep a gate that doesnt exist. its pointless.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago

Well, even if that was true (which it isn't, most major podcasts are audio only), it would still not be a podcast if it requires there to be a video with it. Of course if the video is just some person speaking into a microphone with no additional vital information included in the video feed, then it can be considered an alternative form of podcast distribution.

[-] Hitch42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

A podcast isn’t defined by its contents, but by the way it is distributed. Most modern podcasts are people speaking into microphones like it’s a radio show, but it doesn’t have to be that. Video podcasts aren’t much of a thing since YouTube, but they still exist. I used to watch a good amount of videos on iTunes’s podcast section in podcast’s early days.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago

Indeed it is defined by it's delivery method to an audio player. Even the term derives from the audio only iPod.

A common definition would be:

An audio programme in a compressed digital format, delivered via an RSS feed over the Internet to a subscriber and designed for playback on computers or portable digital audio players, such as the iPod.

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

gate keeping an imaginary gate again. arguing for the sake of argument. incorrectly.

nobody is saying it requires video, just that its common for podcasts to have it. which it is. and if people want to host a video version on peerview, they have that option. and it doesnt make it less of a podcast to have video.

there are audio only podcasts, and optional audio +/- video podcasts. they are all considered podcasts. you just have more options to view as well as listen, if you choose.

also the majority of the top 100 and top 150 lists of podcasts all have video counterparts (google it) so lets not spread misinformation to fit our narrative, this number is also drastically increasing year over year. do the majoriry of ALL podcasts also have video? no. most amateur or smaller / creatively different podcasts dont require video in addition. they get by just fine on audio, or dont think video helps them creatively, or maybe they just cant afford the setup they want yet.

bottom line. a podcast can have video. and still be considered a podcast. and it can be hosted on peerview if people wish, and still be a podcast.

theres zero wiggle room on this quantified fact.

1 + 1= 2, gravity exists, the world is round, water is wet, im gonna go make breakfast for my wife and then go for a bike ride.

i love you bro, go hug someone today, because i cant be there to do it myself. i hope you have a good meal soon.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

nobody is saying it requires video

Please read the thread again. It started with someone claiming that if it doesn't support video, it can't be used for podcasts, which is just ridiculous 🙄 And I never claimed that a podcast can't also have an alternative distribution method via video. You are arguing a complete strawman.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It started with someone claiming that if it doesn't support video, it can't be used for podcasts, which is just ridiculous

Nope, you're just making shit up again. All I said was that Castopod does not support video podcasts.

And I never claimed that a podcast can't also have an alternative distribution method via video

There is no alternative distribution method. It's the same distribution method (RSS).

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

brother, we can all read, and we can all see you are full of shit. lmao.

im gonna make some beef souvlaki and tzatziki sauce, then probably go and make sweet, passionate love to my wife, if we arent too full after dinner, then watch our programs until we fall asleep.

you can jerk yourself off in the comments, and bullshit the internet to your hearts content.

good luck kiddo, you're gonna need to get a lot better at this if you want to be the "bestess ninernet debatoh" someday, lmao.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

You put surprisingly lot of effort into having the last word in an internet debate... go ahead and make passionate love to your imaginary wife then 🤡

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

looks over at wife of three years, she fades into fairy dust because some low tier debate bro on the internet doesnt believe women exist

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I would change your waifu pillow if it is three years old already 🤷

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's a long term committed relationship!

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

whats a waifu pillow?? sorry for my ignorance, im employed.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

What a lame excuse. You can do better. Since you seem to like to put a lot of effort into getting the last word in, how about posting a nice picture of you and your waifu pillow?

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago

most major podcasts are audio only

Look again. 8 of the top 10 podcasts right now all have video.

it would still not be a podcast if it requires there to be a video with it

None of them "require" video.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spotify isn't the only source of podcasts 🙄

And it was you that talked about requiring video.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago

Spotify has a large enough market share to be considered an authority on what's popular. If there's another platform you'd like to share that contradicts my assessment, feel free to share it, but like everything else you've said, I assume your response will be something along the lines of "I don't need to back up my nonsense because everyone knows it already!!!".

And it was you that talked about requiring video.

I sure didn't. You literally just made that up.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago

Sure, now you are backtracking 🙄 Replying to someone suggesting a dedicated podcast platform with "it doesn't support video" is in no way implying that in needs to support video, right? You are just gishgallopping BS here now 🤷

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago

now you are backtracking

I am not backtracking. You are lying and gaslighting.

Replying to someone suggesting a dedicated podcast platform with "it doesn't support video" is in no way implying that in needs to support video, right?

....yes? That's exactly right. Especially in the context of someone asking specifically "why would I use this particular platform?"

Goodbye.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hello Paige Saunders! I'm a big fan you smarmy kiwi yimby.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately if you want to run a video podcast you need to also upload to YouTube and Spotify manually and directly. Because they're 2 of the 3 biggest platforms, and because fuck RSS I guess.

[-] Paige@piefed.ca 1 points 1 year ago

True, I'll point this out.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

You don't need to. Content is perfectly discoverable without them. Just about the only real benefit is having the "extra storage". And nowadays it's pretty dangerous, as at least Youtube hallucinates edits for uploaded casts and stuff without the creators's consent or knowledge.