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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 82 points 1 year ago (13 children)

We should point out that Apple cider is an alcoholic beverage with sparkle in UK/Ireland, but just cloudy apple juice in the US.

[–] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Down to prohibition. For a time you couldn't legally sell alcohol so apple juice was sold under the name cider. Sometimes with handy instructions on how not to store it to avoid it fermenting into alcohol. Then, by the time restrictions were lifted, cider just meant apple juice as far as America was concerned.

(Allegedly)

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yep. Prohibition was also the reason for Americans to be so into fast cars.

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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not just in UK, but literally everywhere in the world. Apart from US.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nah, US too.

Johnny Appleseed wasn't planting edible apples, he was sowing seeds for a variety that tasted absolutely terrible, but was the best for alcoholic cider. What other country has a folk hero whose mission in life was making sure the next generation never ran out of alcoholic cider?

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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Frenchman from Normandie, and an uncle producing alcoholic cider, I was always very confused when ordering cider at restaurants. Hard cider is the booze one.

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[–] pyromaster55@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But, in this sense, she's almost certainly referring to mulled cider, which is pretty much exclusively made with the hard stuff, with the some additional flavors and spices, and likely spiked as well.

My personal favorite recipe involves hard cider, cranberry juice, spices, and then spiked with rum.

It's much more fall feeling and alcoholic than either cider alone.

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[–] Skua@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The entire West Country is fuming at both the notion of cider being merely an autumn drink and also it being compared to pumpkin spice

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[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, you'll usually see that referred to as "hard cider" here. Though, it's worth pointing out that even American hard ciders are sickeningly sweet. There's a pub near me that has Strongbow, and I've become a big fan.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Strongbow is basically a piss in the UK. Sorry for you, guys, that you don't have proper cider over there.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cloudiness is what makes it AMERICAN, you Limey bastard!

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

French cider is also cloudy. And it contains alcohol.

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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hmm. I'll have to mull this one over.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago
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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Buy a juicer, put a whole-ass bag of apples through that fucker, plus a knob of ginger. Simmer that shit in a pot with a few cinnamon sticks and whole cloves.

You can thank me later.

Also if you do actually do this and its your first experience juicing: clean your juicer immediately! Im serious, clean that shit while the cider is simmering. If you let it sit out 'til the next day you WILL regret it.

[–] madkins@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I'm not putting my knob any near a juicer. Fool me once...

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Apple cider is seasonal because it relies on apple harvesting, but there is no reason to not have pumpkin spice any time of year except for artificial scarcity. The same with eggnog except people don't like eggnog much to begin with.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eggnog is delicious, but if I drank it year round I'd put on a hundred pounds

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[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

But apples are available year round and cider is a great storage method. It is available year round. Preferences and market drivers cause seasonal supply increases.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take the nutmeg out of it, that's what no one likes about it. That's basically what custard is, and it's fucking good.

It's like a drinkable pudding.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What, boo. Nutmeg is great. My experience with people not liking eggnog is that they don't like the stuff labeled eggnog you get at the supermarket.

The real stuff, made with egg yolks, with lots of booze, left to age a month or two, excellent.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actual eggnog is an affront in the fact of god, but the carton of custard flavored milkshake that Southern Comfort sells every year is pretty excellent. I'm led to believe you can even put booze in it.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those, sir, are fighting words. Eggnog is one of the best parts of the season, and I am willing to die on this hill!

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[–] CosmicApe@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

This may just be me being a pedantic little bitch, but I hate when people call it "apple cider" Cider is made from apples, the apple is redundant!

[–] Astongt615@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Cider can be made from all kinds of good fruits (maybe things other than fruits can count as cider, I'm cideroligist)

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[–] xeekei@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Abird1620@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Meh, let the apple lovers lean into the fact they are getting the good shit.

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[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact. American folk legend Johnny Appleseed was actually a very successful businessman. Rather than planting apple trees randomly, he founded tree nurseries for cider production. He wore pauper's clothes because he wanted to, not because he was some vagabond.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Another fun fact. Apple seeds are not true to seed. Which means if you plant apple seeds, you will get crab apples.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck that. Put them together and heat it up. Mulled cider is great.

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[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My local grocery store unfortunately has pumpkin spice apple cider this year...

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, the rest of the planet still has no clue as to what pumpkin spice is.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Pear cider is better than apple cider

[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago
[–] snor10@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not from the US and I gotta ask, wtf is pumpkin spice? Dehydrated pumpkin powder or what?

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's the spices often used in pumpkin pie and other pumpkin dishes. According to the internet, it's a combination of "cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, allspice, and cloves".

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Terrible/wonderful compromise...Apumpkin Spider blend.

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[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Easier to pour whiskey in, that's for sure.

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[–] Chev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why compare a drink to a spice? That's like saying a chair is much better then a rose.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably because the most popular use of "pumpkin spice" is in a PSL.

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