To me, this article seems to be arguing that Trump will probably end up in the General election, but will lose by a wide margin because he has become more extreme and has pending legal action against him. I would say this sounds pretty similar to what many argued in 2016, though circumstances are admittedly very different now. What hasn't changed is my lack of faith in a large percentage of the American population who either don't vote or vote in hatred.
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It's weird how people still bring up 2016 like 2020 didn't happen. I get it, we can't know for sure and people got burned that one time. But he's hardly a winner.
In fact he lost the popular vote both times and the candidates he backed during the midterms lost for the most part. His entire track record is losing.
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2016 was pure gift. He was as surprised as everyone else when he won. He's all in now, it's that or prison.
Promise?
This article was like... if a YouTuber had a journalism job but no training. Pretty hard to read and editorialized heavily.
Don't believe anything you read about the trump machine imploding.
Vote. Don't be complacent.
I sure hope so, but I won’t be holding my breath. Can’t fix stupid and there is a lot of stupid.
If I stepped on a dog turd and smeared it down the street, would you say I ruined it?
Is Trump the turd and the GOP the street in this analogy? Or the turd is the GOP and Trump the one stepping on it?
Yes.
This exact same article was written in 2015.
It is 100% worth remaining hungry, remaining diligent, remaining skeptical, remaining active.
But we are in a very different climate right now. I think the big difference is that unlike 2015, people have actually seen what a trump presidency looks like. There are absolutely republicans that will refuse to vote for him, and he was bad enough that he will drive record high turnout from democrats.
Ah yes, because the stable genius depended so heavily on his marbles when he won the first time.
He's losing some marbles nobody knew he had any more.
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Uhh, what the hell is this article talking about? His approval has remained steady with both Republicans and all Americans, and even saw a small uptick recently..
Sounds like they’re still operating under 2020 and 2022 logic. Biden is pretty widely disliked nowadays outside his own party and 2024 should in no way be viewed as an easy Dem win.
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Can't wait for the whole Republican party to go extinct
Doubtful. The more he rants and the crazier it sounds, the more his supporters love it. They foam at the mouth for his schtick.
Flood the media with as much insane rambling as you can. That way, when you tell the truth, it still sounds insane.
His supporters will pick what they want from the salad he spits out and eat it up. Meanwhile, his dissenters have to work through it to make sense of it.
He's been playing psych games since day one.
GOP has been pulling themselves down for decades. Trump is just pointing it out more effectively.
Yes, and Trump isn't a unique evil, in terms of policy, he's no different than Bush Jr or Regan. The rich people on TV just don't like that he's loud and rude.
Trump is a monster, yes, but considering all the other candidates from 2016, we could've gotten a lot worse, Like Santorum, or Huckabee. Or Ted "bomb the middle east until the sand glows" Cruz. Or Hillary "single payer will never come to pass" Clinton
Lord willing
Too bad the democrats cheated Bernie twice in a row.
Nobody cheated Bernie. He just wasn't popular enough to win. My god, move on.
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2016, I agree. He was cheated and could've beaten Trump.
2020? Not so sure. Even Bernie himself admitted that Joe Biden's pro working class policies and bottom up, middle out economic plan was very similar to his. He even said that his campaign team was so glad that Joe Biden didn't run in 2016. Bernie himself stated that Joe Biden was so sincerely for the average working American, that even though Biden was basically "Bernie Lite", he wasn't sure he could win against Joe.
If we look at what Joe Biden's been doing for this country, including passing the infrastructure bills, limited gun restrictions, and the Inflation reduction act, we see that he is kind of "Bernie Lite" and honestly, it's SO much better than Trump, that I'll take it.
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Inshallah
I've heard this song before and I'm not dancing to it again
Get some popcorn?
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I have doubts. I can already see a low Dem turnout on the horizon. They need to push the mail-in ballot advantage again now that many are back in the office.
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