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submitted 9 months ago by muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

A friend is due for a gaming PC build. But he’s super pissed it needs to run windows 11. I told him just run something else. He said his job needs something that runs windows-only and on the odd occasions where he needs a desktop to do something he’s not buying a second computer just to run windows.

Dual booting exists but Microsoft likes to clobber boot loaders. So I reminded him he could just run windows 11 in a VM when he needs to, everything else in bare metal Linux.

He’s now sold on moving to Linux.

The question is where should he start? It used to be as simple as “if you aren’t sure, use Ubuntu.” But his use case kinda seems like what everyone has been crowing about using bazzite for.

I have zero experience with bazzite but the page does describe something built for his use case. There are 3 concerns I have though.

  1. Is it common enough that he can Google an answer?
  2. it’s an atomic distro, so classic Linux answers he might find online won’t always be applicable here.
  3. selinux, ugh.

What’s a good gamer Linux distro? He’s not super into tinkering. He just wants it to do the thing without Microsoft’s invasive bullshit.

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[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

On dual booting, I'll say I've been running Win11 through several updates with GRUB and Mint installed on a second SSD with no issues for over a year now.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

do you think it could be safer to dual boot if windows an linux are on separate physical drives? he really doesnt want win11 but for a few of his games he's going to need it.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Sounds weird they are mixing work and pleasure on the same machine, but anyways +1 for dual boot.

VMs haven't been a great experience for me if you need to get real work done.

I've been dual booting on one drive for years, never experienced any issues. Heard doing it on separate drives is even better though.

Probably extra points if your linux partitions are encrypted.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

Yes, I have heard that windows likes to be on its own drive. I've also never had any problems with it erasing grub unless I was installing windows after Linux.

I would recommend setting windows to the UTC timezone so it doesn't fuck with the PC's system clock.

I still recommend dual booting over VM if you have to interface with any peripherals.

Dual booting sometimes can result in other hardware interface problems, or solve them. They're not common, but keep an eye out. For instance I had a laptop once where the wifi kill switch only worked in windows, and if you pressed it in Linux, you'd have to reboot into windows to toggle it back on.

[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My instinct would be yes, and this was the recommendation I found while researching it before implementation. Windows is less likely to screw with another drive than it is the partitions on it's own drive. That said, it's a best guess and you never know what Microsoft vibe coders will break next! But I have foubd it stable.

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

If not Bazzite, Nobara is an option. It is based on Fedora, but is not an atomic distro, and iirc, it replaces selinux with apparmor, but unless you're getting into development, docker/podman etc, selinux will never be an issue.

Nobara is maintained by Glorious Eggroll, who also maintains proton-ge. Is also comes with an iso with built-in nvidia drivers, and also comes with an HTPC iso.

I have been using it for a few years, now. The documentation is also well detailed. And anything that works on Fedora will work on Nobara.

[-] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

After I left Bazzite I switched to Garuda, it is also gaming and performance focused, works with Nvidia, and has been super easy as a beginner.

It may be worth a look.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

We aren’t building with nvidia. Absolutely not.

[-] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I mean .. it's not required. So, good for you, I guess.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s a matter of their ties with palentier at this point. We aren’t paying for that.

[-] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I mentioned it because a lot of people already have a card they need to accommodate, not to try and convince you.

[-] eli@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Kubuntu is fine. I've been running that without issues for months now.

Bazzite is good too. But do push for the KDE version.

[-] g0nz0li0@piefed.social 1 points 9 months ago

Or GNOME! GNOME is good too.

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[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

I don't really follow what's going on between different distributions as Debian has been my workhorse for decades, but a few weeks ago out of curiosity I threw bazzite on a desktop which was left ower due to work changes and that hardware is now just for gaming. Installation was pretty much just next-next-next and it after boot there was a steam login window ready to go. Every game in my library so far has been just as flawless experience than with windows, if not even better. I don't have any the new AAA-titles and I'm not a fan of any online-multiplayers, so YMMV. For Epic I installed Heroic-launcher and (atleast games I've tested so far) everything works.

[-] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

Nobara, LinuxMint, Zorin, PopOS & Manjaro. Or MXLinux or Antix if the hardware is potato

[-] soldan@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago
[-] xcel@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago
  • Get a usb with decent capacity

  • Install Ventoy

  • Drag and drop whatever linux iso you feel like trying (put in as many as you can)

  • Boot them one by one to try the out live

[-] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Mint, Fedora, openSUSE.

[-] fell@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago

I can't speak about Bazzite, but I installed Mint for a friend about two months ago and he was totally able to web search himself through a few problems. I didn't have to intervene at all.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

mint is in a weird place with wayland right now so I'm not putting him on that.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For gaming, start with Bazzite. It “just works” and is almost impossible to break.

If your friend wants more control, switch to Fedora KDE.

If your friend is very technically inclined — comfortable on a command line — and wants even more control, switch to CachyOS.

Whatever you choose, I strongly recommend using the KDE Plasma desktop environment.

I do not recommend Mint, even though it is very popular here, since it does not support the KDE Plasma desktop environment, the Cinnamon DTE is ugly and outdated garbage, and Mint has more hardware problems than other distros on newer gaming hardware.

Fortunately, switching Linux distros is fast and easy, unlike Windows. So you can quickly and easily try different things to see what you like. Consider putting Ventoy on a USB drive, since it lets you copy ISOs straight onto it and you can boot directly to whatever you want. It’s a handy way to test drive any distro you want that has a “Live” image.

If you absolutely must keep Windows around, install it to a separate physical drive to prevent it from destroying your bootloader. Then configure BIOS to boot to your Linux drive.

[-] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

NixOS. You can tinker a lot if you want but you can also just install nix packages by typing in the default config file and call it a day.

[-] hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

While I love the idea or NixOS, I haven't pulled the trigger myself. And that being said it doesn't seem "noon friendly." Mainly because it seems to to against the standard paradigms.

[-] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, the installer is Calamares, so it's easy af. To install packages, just look it up here and add that to the config file. Steam in particular needs you to add 4 lines of code shown here but other than that, it's not hard. You can certainly make it a pain in the ass if you want to go ultra customization mode, but it's actually really easy to setup and maintain.

I guarantee you the people who tell you to stay away are either people who NEED to beautify their setup or people who haven't tried NixOS and just assume it's as hard as Gentoo.

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