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I've got a bad feeling about this (startrek.website)

submitted 11 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website to c/gaming@lemmy.world

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like this headline may have been taken out of context. It's such a weird thing to say off cuff.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Yeah but now someone’s gonna try that

[–] psy32nd@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

And we believe new games should be released every 10 year.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

Charge what you want, I’m still just gonna pirate it 🤷🏼‍♀️

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who is that charming fellow? I feel he has lots of good ideas

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He's so environmentalist he lives in the woods

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's how they used to be in the early days of the Internet. The earliest online multiplayer games like Cyberstrike charged by the hour. Cyberstrike cost six dollars an hour! Games in the BBS days were by the minute.

... Not that I feel there is any reason to bring that back. I am ok with live service games charging a monthly subscription though.

But the idea itself isn't as unheard of as everyone here acts like it is.

[–] quams69@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is absolutely not what he is saying, and no one is pretending this is new

[+] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de -15 points 11 months ago (13 children)

Depending on how exactly this is meant, this might not be controversial.

Games like GTA or RDR offer literally hundreds of hours of entertainment, while other titles like all those yearly sports games or something like CoD probably get less playtime per release. So it makes sense to price the "long plays" higher than the "short plays".

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Games like GTA or RDR offer literally hundreds of hours of entertainment, while other titles like all those yearly sports games or something like CoD probably get less playtime per release. So it makes sense to price the “long plays” higher than the “short plays”.

So how would live-service games fit into that dynamic? Couldn’t Activision argue that CoD is a live-service game, and therefore, should be priced differently somehow?

Not ragging on you or anything, this is an actual question for discussion.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

De facto that already happened - see WoW, it has been running that model for years.

At the end of the day, publishers can charge however they want, and there have been many different attempts already.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

Not everyone uses every product for the same amount of time. That’s the first problem with this way of thinking. But let’s pretend that isn’t the case and apply this thinking to other forms of entertainment.

If I enjoy playing basketball should I have to pay by the hour to own a basketball?

Chess is one of the oldest games and it has way more hours played than all GTA games combined. Should we have to pay by the hour for a chess set?

Why stop at entertainment? I use my bed more than any game I’ve ever played. Does that mean I should pay by the hour to own a bed?

Seems pretty clear what motivated this CEO to say this.. greed

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Play times does in no way mean quality or dev time. I could make a game right know, in less than 30 minutes, where you have a single button. You win at a billionen presses. I'll take my thousand dollars, thank you.

Now you might think that nobody would buy it and that's fair. The secret is to continue making games like normal and tack my button at the end of my 5h campaign. If everyone does it you either pay up or stop playing.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What mental image do you have of the average game buyer? A mindless idiot who just has to buy everything he's being advertised?

Of course you can make such a game. But nobody will buy it. It's that simple. BTW your construction is called straw man. You know damn well, that some games have been designed for longer playtimes, you just chose to ignore that knowledge.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I uh.... I don't know if @De_Narm set out to do this, but they just described the main gameplay of Cookie Clicker, a $5 game about manually clicking a picture of a cookie. It was released on steam two years ago and has made over $3 million in revenue.

It made more money than Hades, which has won several awards. There are leaderboards for the cookie. It is you whose opinion of what the typical gamer will put up with is actually high.

[–] _danny@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That's definitely a strawman or just a straight up misrepresentation of what cookie clicker is. You only actually "manually click a picture of a cookie" for about one to five minutes, then you basically never click it again. It's described as an idle game where you play by not playing, and the core mechanic is "number get bigger faster". The game described in this thread is mindlessly clicking a button, no depth, no automation or acceleration. Just click a billion times to win.

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[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

OSRS about to go for thousands of dollars.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I get what you mean and it makes sense. I just still hope it doesn't happen cause we all know the devs won't get paid more

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