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[–] writeorelse@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (10 children)

That's not "liberal economics", that's just "Capitalism in practice".

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you noticed how liberalism is always pro-capitalism?

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just said the same thing twice

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"liberal economics" ? Seriously? This flowchart describes every POS robber baron capitalist for the last several centuries.

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Economic liberalism is the economic theory of both American parties. Idk how it came to be applied to only the democratic party but that's incorrect. OP is presumably critiquing economic liberalism from a leftist perspective, of which the Democrats are not

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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What definition of liberal are you using here?

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the one of (neo)liberalism. An economic state which is accepted and perpetuated by virtually all sides of the culture war

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Historically by the right wing then.

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Historically by both, the democrats just give out a couple treats now and then to make themselves look progressive

Edit: unless of course you're using the actual definitions of left and right wing, but most people in this thread aren't so forgive me if I'm mistaken

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[–] skelpie@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's 0 real economists who hold anything close to these views. What a stupid take. Before you downvote, I ask that you find a single source that contradicts my claim. Since all liberal economics is like that, it should be easy, right?

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Economists may not be like that, but politicians are, and they're the ones that run the economy.

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[–] Smallletter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't matter what academics think or teach when this is what happens in the real world

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[–] Just_A_Human@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Were you not alive during the 2008 global financial meltdown? Where the entire world had to subsidize the 1% because the banks they own sold garbage mortgages?

What about more recently with the bank runs that we had a month or so ago? The fed implented a new "insurance warranty" to make banks whole again "without using tax payer funds" but we both know that's a load of bullshit...

Now we have this never ending inflation, interest rates only going up for who knows how long... Literally siphoning your money from whatever savings you have left and if you're already broke, they are taking away any buying power you had and taking it down to nothing...

So yea, fuck whatever bullshit economic theory or whatever academic bullshit you are talking about, regardless of whatever "politics" it's tagged under... Its the 1% snatching away any and all power that the people accumulated over this covid recovery (strong labour market, practically 0 interest during peak covid, work from home, etc)

Thanks for listening to my Ted talk..

*a word

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[–] DingleBoone@reddthat.com 31 points 1 year ago

aka "Reaganomics"

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Grimr0c@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is definitely not "Liberal Economics".

Neoliberal economics

[–] explodicle@local106.com 11 points 1 year ago

"Further right than leftists" economics

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 25 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I don't get it. Billionaires do billionaires things, but this meme being made the same week as a liberal policy requiring fair taxes for the rich to cover social security for the next 75 years makes this poster 100% out of touch.

[–] Maven@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The use of the word liberal here is not the same as the one used by the one commonly used in conversation. This meme is talking about neoliberalism which is the dominant economic idea in the US and UK right now.

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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

First of all, I don't know which country you are talking about which put these policies in place. And it does not matter as it does not alleviate the exploitation inherent in capitalism, it only puts a nice coat of paint over it...

[–] nemesis_aorta@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They’re probably US-American, who thinks liberalism is the farthest you can get as a “leftist” and that liberalism is not just spiced up centre(-left).

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[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

that's billions of tax payers money with the tax burden being disproportionately heavy for the 90% while the 10% pay less and less taxes the richer they are

[–] 30isthenew29@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I like how on lemmy you see both how much upvotes and downvotes you have, on reddit you could have a score of 1 and don’t know much has happened, but with lemmy you could have 50 upvotes and 49 downvotes, making you really think about it…

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[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once again, I blame the Chicago school of economics. Fuck that economic theory. It's exactly why we have the mega corporations of today, it's entire purpose was to neuter the Sherman antitrust act after Roosevelt's crusade against the trusts.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

the chicago school is just a natural development of capitalism. In competition instead of cooperation, the winner absorbs the looser and cetralizes production more and more into oligopolies. Even if you turned back the time before the era of "crony/coorperate capitalism" it would take but a bit of time to get back to the state we are in right now...

[–] eggshappedegg@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's just socialism for companies

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[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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