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If they can't sell it, then they'll lower prices and people will be able to buy them.

I doubt the profits are so hard to come up with considering the wild CEO pay and record profits everyone's bragging about.

Straight up don’t give a single fuck what car dealers want. If they could all go out of business I’d be a happier person

With 30% markups? No, you cannot.

EVs require much less maintenance...dealers make much of their money from... maintenance! So they mark up the sale price to compensate for their lost revenue.

The solution is selling cars without dealerships, but our helpful state legislatures have made that illegal in many states.

Maybe roll out some models people can afford? It's all SUVs that start around $45k, but they built only a few of those base models. The ones actually available are premium trims that go for $65k and might peak around $100k. They were able to sell out for 6 months, and then that market was saturated. Now they stand around asking why nobody buys their cars.

Well, maybe if the price of cars wasn't so fucking high, they'd be able to sell more of them. But nope, corps gotta get those record profits in, while underpaying every single [non-executive] worker.

I don’t see any problem with removig car dealers. Just phase out of existence no one will miss them.

Give me a solid car with an electric motor, but all old-school buttons and knobs in the cabin instead of a touchscreen that will be out of date in 5 years and cost 10k to replace if the kids get their grimy hands on it.

How about people pay attention to local elections? The reason we are not seeing funding for EV infrastructure is most small towns can be bought by the local dealership family who would rather see continued profits from ICE vehicle maintenance and not investments into EV infrastructure, then it conviently sides with this bullshit narrative of nothing can be sold and we have no infrastructure so give up on EVs.

Henry Ford designed the Model T to be a bare-bones vehicle affordable for the everyday person. Volkswagon designed the Beetle to be a bare-bones vehicle affordable for the everyday person.

The first car company to design an EV that's a bare-bones vehicle affordable for the everyday person will sell lots of them. Profit per car may be lower but perhaps we need to set the need for maximum profits aside on this particular issue?

My raises aren't even CLOSE to keeping up with inflation. Rather hard to splurge on a fancy EV with tons of high-tech nice-to-have features that are just going to break anyway. All I need to do is to get from point A to point B and have AC, heat and a half-decent stereo system.

Bullshit. These dealers don't want to sell EVs because they can't bait you into a sales pitch 4 times a year with free oil changes.

Car dealers are just a legal & institutionalized cartel.

Maybe it’s because cars suck now: filled with spyware, massively complex systems that aren’t better at doing car things than similar systems in the 90s, and with a price tag that considers this garbage as worth something to the consumer.

Fascinating, have they tried sucking less?

If they can’t sell them then let companies sell without a dealership! Sorry your scammy business isn’t working anymore either clean your nose or get out

When GM killed the Bolt, I tried to buy one at two different dealerships near me. One wanted a $10k premium over MSRP and the other wanted $8k.

They also both had a non-negotiable "security" etching added and wheel protection whatever that I had to pay for.

It isn't that I didn't want one, it's that your dealerships fucked it up.

Honestly, may have settled for MSRP, but they wouldn't budge. Fuck off.

The infrastructure isn't there. I live in an apartment (and likely will for the foreseeable future), and there are no chargers here.

The option of a (practical) electric car does not exist for a sizeable portion of the country. The fact that they're really expensive is actually secondary considering they're just a non-starter without the infrastructure.

I want and have wanted an EV since 2013.....can't afford one. So to be clear, it's not a matter of wanting, it's a matter of making an affordable one.

I loved my Volt... Charged overnight in a normal 110 outlet got me the 43 miles to work and back (after about year 5, not quite the whole way) but I could still decide to go on a 600 mile road trip spur of the moment. Had to give up the 2014 in 2023 when a full charge wouldn't go 20 miles. ☹️

There is no PHEV comparable now, though! Made the switch back to full ICE and I hate it.

I would like to buy an electric car but I will not because;

1. I don't have a garage.
2. I live in a very wintery climate and don't trust the battery to take it/don't want to heat a battery
3. The closest chargers are at least 50 km away in other towns
4. My house has 60 amp service (upgrading that is on the todo list, but it's a long list)
5. I don't trust the battery to last longer than the life of the lease

Supply and demand, right? Surely they'll get cheaper, right?

Car dealers don't want to sell EVs, it's a lot more work for them

They can sell an ICE vehicle within an hour of a customer showing up on the lot.

EVs can take multiple days and sit downs to try and sell because people have questions since it's new and they want to understand the details before purchasing.

That means less commission, so salesmen try to avoid selling people EVs over ICE vehicles.

I would have bought a plug in electric, but my apartment didn't like the idea of me throwing extension cords out my second story window.

Dealers are waiting to see it the country becomes a full on fascist, road warrior, shit-hole country or continue on a path to a modern first world democracy.

There's a huge wave of anti ev propaganda coming out. Beware.

You're not gonna sell shit with jacked up sky high prices, even more so in a time of high interest rates. We see your lots are full of unsold cars, both ICE and EV, so maybe it's time to bring prices back down to Earth.

We really ought to change the laws to allow for direct-to-consumer car sales. Dealerships are scummy motherfuckers who are perfectly happy to be a middleman and rip people off.

Gotta push the EV infrastructure harder. No good pushing lots of EV cars when the infrastructure isn’t there to support them. Can’t charge at work. Can’t charge at your apartment complex. No charge at the shopping areas. Etc. Other than the high initial cost, I’d suggest that the inconvenience and irritation of trying to locate charging along with range limits is a major factor in people not wanting EV.