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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago

I dunno who "Bentham's Bulldog" is, but they live up to their nick and I like the cut of their jib:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/2ew3chEabxf8YySR5/functional-decision-theory-not-even-wrong-also-wrong

The community is reduced to downvoting, sputtering, and "the real influential philosophers ~~live in Canada~~ are working in industry, not academia":

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/2ew3chEabxf8YySR5/functional-decision-theory-not-even-wrong-also-wrong?commentId=4CcLDXFkGWGEsgGuu

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago

And FDT asks: what action would my algorithm outputting make me expect to be the richest if it was settled at the start of time?

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[-] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago
[-] flaviat@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago

Smart Pipe Inc. is a Registered Sex Offender

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago
[-] BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago

I'm going to take a guess that the reactor design is one of the boiling water reactors engineered in the 1950s.

Also jesus christ just build solar already it's much easier than trying to design an entire nuclear fuel supply chain.

[-] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago

Did anyone else read the old Star wars Novel Darksaber by Kevin J Anderson? The Hutts kidnap/hire the designer of the original death star to build them one of their own, and while the new Republic is gathering up the requisite heroes to do what they do to death stars we get to see the Hutts cutting corners and embezzling. The fleet arrives just as they're ready to turn it on and instead of blowing our heroes up the subpar construction fails and it just fucking explodes.

No idea why that came to mind all of a sudden after reading this piece.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 2 points 3 months ago

Kevin J Anderson

I'm so sorry.

[-] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 3 points 3 months ago

I never said it was a good old Star Wars expanded universe novel.

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 3 months ago

officially out of the loop here:

What is an LLM "system card", does it have any sort of scientific/technical validity, or is it just performance theater by the LLM vendor?

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

More the later than the former... they are better than purely marketing focused stuff pushed out by the LLM companies, and if you dig through them and read between the lines you can occasionally sift out useful details. Like here is a pretty solid sneer digging through Mythos's 'system card' and pointing out all the ways it contradicts the hype and press headlines Anthropic was pushing.

But even so they have some big problems...

  • the benchmarks the system cards reference are kind of useless and heavily gamed
  • LLM companies want to keep lots of details secret from competitors, so fundamentals like number of model weights or parameters or size/quality of the training data set or other training specs are deliberately left out
  • lots of the stuff they reference is booster garbage and/or doomer crit-hype
  • they tend to be long, wastefully so, imitating the length of academic papers without having the corresponding amount of depth or information
  • despite their length and wordiness they also neglect basic practical usage advice that isn't even proprietary (or at least would be bound to leak if you poke around with the model at all and thus not worth keeping secret in the first place). Like not even big picture stuff I mentioned in my second bullet, but really simple stuff...
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